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3. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
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17. ES =Europaische Stammtafeln ., publisher, V. Klostermann, (published in four distinct series, for this citation most people give ES then details on portion ES from which retrieved. Full citation ES found below as provided by John P Dulong, Phd (see URL link below accessed nov 2001), full citation for 3rd series is:Schwennicke, Detlev.  Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge. [European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series.], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven. 16 vols.  Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt , 1978-1995., The newest, forth, series is entitled Eurpäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge (started with vol. 17 and is now being published at Frankfurt am Main, Germany, by Verlag Vittorio Klostermann.)and Detlev Schwennicke is the sole author, full citation and discussion Europäische Stammtafeln by John P. DuLong, Ph.D. URL http://habitant.org/tools/esnotes.htm, [ES, ii, 20-21] [ES, ii, 20-21] cited by : Alan B. Wilson Subject: Re: DUKES OF BURGUNDY Date: 1997/09/30 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=hugh+iv+of+burgundy&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=abwilson-3009971432390001%40abwilson.hip.berkeley.edu.
18. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Alix Of Burgundy.
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20. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Adelheid/Alix de Bourgogne From: Leo van de Pas. Subject: Re: parents of Alix de Bourgoyne. Date: 1998/07/24. URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19980725052757.00de842c%40mail.iinet.net.au.
21. ES =Europaische Stammtafeln ., publisher, V. Klostermann, (published in four distinct series, for this citation most people give ES then details on portion ES from which retrieved. Full citation ES found below as provided by John P Dulong, Phd (see URL link below accessed nov 2001), full citation for 3rd series is:Schwennicke, Detlev.  Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge. [European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series.], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven. 16 vols.  Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt , 1978-1995., The newest, forth, series is entitled Eurpäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge (started with vol. 17 and is now being published at Frankfurt am Main, Germany, by Verlag Vittorio Klostermann.)and Detlev Schwennicke is the sole author, full citation and discussion Europäische Stammtafeln by John P. DuLong, Ph.D. URL http://habitant.org/tools/esnotes.htm, [ES, ii, 20-21] [ES, ii, 20-21] cited in SGM by : Alan B. Wilson Subject: Re: DUKES OF BURGUNDY Date: 1997/09/30 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=hugh+iv+of+burgundy&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=abwilson-3009971432390001%40abwilson.hip.berkeley.edu.
22. Stewart Baldwin and Todd Farmerie, "Henry II Ancestor Table," [This is link to table itself] and the numbers before the entries show the climibing geneology, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/at.htm, 6. Henry I, king of England.
23. "The Henry Project (The ancestors of king Henry II of England)," (Stewart Baldwin; Todd Farmerie), http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm, Scholarly , informative, completely sourced and Indispensable site . Both Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Farmerie are frequent contributors to SGM (General URL for SGM: http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/malco002 .htm.
24. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1 Dec. 1135 St Denis-Le-Fermont,Near Gisors.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
25. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1 Dec. 1135.
26. "The Henry Project (The ancestors of king Henry II of England)," (Stewart Baldwin; Todd Farmerie), http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm, Scholarly , informative, completely sourced and Indispensable site . Both Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Farmerie are frequent contributors to SGM (General URL for SGM: http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), Matilda / Maud http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/malco002.htm.
27. Stewart Baldwin and Todd Farmerie, "Henry II Ancestor Table," [This is link to table itself] and the numbers before the entries show the climibing geneology, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/at.htm, 7. Edith of Scotland http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/at.htm.
28. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1a Eadgith, otherwise Matilda.
29. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1 May 1118 Westminster Palace, London, England.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
30. "The Henry Project (The ancestors of king Henry II of England)," (Stewart Baldwin; Todd Farmerie), http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm, Scholarly , informative, completely sourced and Indispensable site . Both Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Farmerie are frequent contributors to SGM (General URL for SGM: http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), 1 May 1118 http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/malco002.htm.
31. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1 May 1118.
32. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 11 Nov 1100 Westminster Abbey, London, England.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
33. "The Henry Project (The ancestors of king Henry II of England)," (Stewart Baldwin; Todd Farmerie), http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm, Scholarly , informative, completely sourced and Indispensable site . Both Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Farmerie are frequent contributors to SGM (General URL for SGM: http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), 1100 http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/malco002.htm.
34. Stewart Baldwin and Todd Farmerie, "Henry II Ancestor Table," [This is link to table itself] and the numbers before the entries show the climibing geneology, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/at.htm, 3. Matilda of England.
35. The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition.  2001., http://www.bartleby.com/65/, Maud.
36. Stewart Baldwin and Todd Farmerie, "Henry II Ancestor Table," [This is link to table itself] and the numbers before the entries show the climibing geneology, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/at.htm, 2. Geoffrey Plantagenet, count of Anjou.
37. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Geoffrey V The Fair,Count Of Anjou & Maine PLANTAGENET.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
38. Stewart Baldwin and Todd Farmerie, "Henry II Ancestor Table," [This is link to table itself] and the numbers before the entries show the climibing geneology, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/at.htm, 1. Henry II, king of England.
39. Britannica.com. Burgos, Castile.
40. Ibid.
41. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib
42. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal07816.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
43. ES =Europaische Stammtafeln ., publisher, V. Klostermann, (published in four distinct series, for this citation most people give ES then details on portion ES from which retrieved. Full citation ES found below as provided by John P Dulong, Phd (see URL link below accessed nov 2001), full citation for 3rd series is:Schwennicke, Detlev.  Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge. [European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series.], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven. 16 vols.  Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt , 1978-1995., The newest, forth, series is entitled Eurpäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge (started with vol. 17 and is now being published at Frankfurt am Main, Germany, by Verlag Vittorio Klostermann.)and Detlev Schwennicke is the sole author, full citation and discussion Europäische Stammtafeln by John P. DuLong, Ph.D. URL http://habitant.org/tools/esnotes.htm, III/4:681 cited http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=v01510100af92485b424d%40%5B206.246.170.52%5D.
44. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988.
45. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Mary (who m 2ndly, before 6 June, 1257, Jean de Brienne, son of John, King of Jerusalem), dau. of Ingelram (or Enguerand) de Couci, Baron de Couci in Picardy, and by her had issue, a son,.
46. Ibid. m 2ndly, before 6 June, 1257,.
47. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/.
48. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, From: Phil Moody RE: Repercussions of the Execution of William de Braose Date: 2001-10-31 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=william+de+Braose&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=MABBKIIDLFFPHHHMGNNIKEELCFAA.moodyprime%40prodigy.net.
49. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, cites [cp] see below.
50. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). [27, Audley art, Vol I, p.347],[27, Verdun art, Vol XII/2, p. 241 seq],[27, Mortimer art, Vol IX, Margaret de Fienes[27, Audley art, Vol I, p.347],[27, Verdun art, Vol XII/2, p. 241 seq],[27, Mortimer art, Vol IX,p 266 seq].
51. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, From: UTZ (UTZ@aol.com) Subject: Re: ARUNDEL Date: 1998/05/06 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Eleanor+FITZALAN&hl=en&rnum=2&selm=a55097df.3550712d%40aol.com.
52. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, 1333/4.
53. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, 7 Feb 1334.
54. Ibid. cites [CP].
55. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). [27, Mortimer art, Vol IX, p.266 seq],[27, Greystoke art, Vol VI, p.188 seq],[27, Burghersh art, Vol I, p. 425 seq],[27, Blount art, Vol II, p. 196], cited by Tim Powys-Lybbe.
56. Ronny O Bodine & Brother Thomas W Spalding Jr, The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, Bodine & Spalding, 3rd Preliminary Edition., cited by Tim Powys-Libbe at http://powys.org/, cited by Tim Powys-Libbe in web site noted above.
57. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 7th Baron Mortimore of Wigmore VII Baron Mortimer of Wigmore.
58. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, 1261.
59. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, ca 1265.
60. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, full date From: Phil Moody RE: Repercussions of the Execution of William de Braose Date: 2001-10-31 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=william+de+Braose&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=MABBKIIDLFFPHHHMGNNIKEELCFAA.moodyprime%40prodigy.net.
61. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, Wigmore castle, Hereford.
62. "Genuki; UK and Ireland Genealogy-Royalty Kings and Queens Index," http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/royalty/index.html, died in the welsh wars.
63. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, battle of Buelt From: UTZ (UTZ@aol.com) Subject: Re: ARUNDEL Date: 1998/05/06 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Eleanor+FITZALAN&hl=en&rnum=2&selm=a55097df.3550712d%40aol.com.
64. Ibid.rm.demon.co.uk
65. DNB: British Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, Leslie Stephen at alia, Vols 1 to 50 odd, 1st: 1885 to 1900. Articles written from 1890 odd to 1990 odd. (2nd edition now in course of preparation), cited in SGM post and in detail for specifics of publication at http://powys.org/, [DNB, wife's GGgrandfather's (Walter De Lacy's) article] cited by Time Powys-Lybbe at SGM post, URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+De+Lacy+Family+-+Confusing+TWO+Walters&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=aad5e2394a.tim%40southfrm.demon.co.uk.
66. Jeffrey L. Thomas, Lise Hull, Paul M. Remfry,Daniel Mersey, Catherine Armstrong, John Northall, "The Castles of Wales," http://www.castlewales.com/is_clare.html, 121000, jltbalt@worldnet.att.net (Jeffrey L Thomas), This essay is part of a series written by Catherine Armstrong focusing on the life and times of William Marshal and his father-in-law Richard fitz Gilbert de Clare, http://www.castlewales.com/mortimer.html.
67. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 1330 [DNB, wife's GGgrandfather's (Walter De Lacy's) article] cited by Time Powys-Lybbe at SGM post, URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+De+Lacy+Family+-+Confusing+TWO+Walters&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=aad5e2394a.tim%40southfrm.demon.co.uk.
68. Britannia.com, "BIOS list (Linked also with Great men and women of Britain and Wales from Britannia.com)," http://britannia.com/bios/ebk/, This entry is on EBK at link above., date.
69. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib 1st Earl of March.
70. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, -Cites [DNB] From: Tim Powys-Lybbe Re: De Lacy Family - Confusing TWO Walters - correction Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+De+Lacy+Family+-+Confusing+TWO+Walters&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=aad5e2394a.tim%40southfrm.demon.co.uk.
71. DNB: British Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, Leslie Stephen at alia, Vols 1 to 50 odd, 1st: 1885 to 1900. Articles written from 1890 odd to 1990 odd. (2nd edition now in course of preparation), cited in SGM post and in detail for specifics of publication at http://powys.org/, [DNB, her GGgrandfather's (Walter De Lacy's) article] cited by Time Powys-Lybbe at SGM post, URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+De+Lacy+Family+-+Confusing+TWO+Walters&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=aad5e2394a.tim%40southfrm.demon.co.uk.
72. Jeffrey L. Thomas, Lise Hull, Paul M. Remfry,Daniel Mersey, Catherine Armstrong, John Northall, "The Castles of Wales," http://www.castlewales.com/is_clare.html, 121000, jltbalt@worldnet.att.net (Jeffrey L Thomas), This essay is part of a series written by Catherine Armstrong focusing on the life and times of William Marshal and his father-in-law Richard fitz Gilbert de Clare, http://www.castlewales.com/ludlow.html.
73. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Joan de Genevill, Lady of Trim-From: Richard Borthwick Subject: Re: Hugh II de LACY (d 1186) (addendum) Date: 1997/04/11 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Hugh+de+Lacy&hl=en&rnum=7&selm=1.5.4.32.19970411143715.0069ea6c%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
74. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Margaret de Mortimer.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
75. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib Margaret Mortimer.
76. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). [27, Oxford art, Vol X, p.193 seq] cited by Tim Powys-Lybbe in web site above.
77. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib Thomas Lord Berkeley who may be called the rich.
78. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 27 Oct 1361.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
79. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib 27 Oct 1385.
80. Ibid. Maurice "who may be called Maurice the Walient".
81. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Maurice The Valiant, Lord Berkeley 4th.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
82. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, Maurice The Valiant, Lord Berkeley 4th.
83. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Aug 1338.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
84. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib at an early age.
85. Dictionary of World History, The bath press limited, Bath, England 1997.
86. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
87. Ibid. circa 1188-From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
88. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, about 1188, angouleme, France.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
89. Moriarty's Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 104, 107-108. cited at URL:http://groups.google.com/groups?q=eleanor+of+provence&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=v02120d00af5337a8df04%40%5B136.152.71.59%5D.
90. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). see narrative.
91. Ibid. The Complete Peerage vol.V,pp702-8 cited by Tompsett.
92. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, See narrative .From: Gordon Fisher Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net.
93. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1 :243. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"14. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, called "Copped Hat" son and heir of Edmund [12th Earl
of Arundel], born about 1313. In 1330-31 he was fully restored in blood and
honours and in December of that year obtained restitution of the Castle and
Honour of Arundel from the widow of John, Earl of Kent, becoming Earl of
Arundel; he took a distinguished part in the wars with France; Admiral of the
West 1340-41 and 1347-47; commanded the second division at the Battle of
Crécy, and was at the fall of Calais in 1347; on June 30, 1347 he succeeded
to the vast estates of the family of Warenne, by the death, s.p.legit of his
mother's brother, John, Earl of Surrey and Sussex. By fine levied 1349-50,
he settled the Castle, town, and manor of Arundel on himself and his [then]
wife Eleanor, for their joint lives, with remainder to the heirs male of his
body by his said wife. On the death of Joan, the widow of his said uncle,
John, Earl of Surrey, in 1361, but not before, he assumed the title of Earl
of Surrey, and in 1366 settled the Warenne estates on his issue. He married,
1stly, 9 February 1320/1, in the King's Chapel at Havering-atte-Bower [he
about 7, she about 8], isabel, daughter and co-heir of Sir Hugh le Despenser the younger, [Lord le Despenser]*, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester. Obtained 4 December 1344, a Papal mandate for the
annulment of his marriage to Isabel le Despenser, on the ground of his
minority and of his never willingly consented to the match. he married
2ndly, 5 February 1344/5, at Ditton, [a lady with whom he had previously
cohabited], Eleanor, widow of John de Beaumont [2nd Lord Beaumont], daughter
of Henry, Earl of Lancaster, by Maud, daughter and heir of Sir Patrick de
Chawices or Chaworth. She, who was 1st cousin to his 1st wife, and 2nd
cousin once removed to the Earl, died 11 January 1372, at Arundel, and was
buried at Lewes. He died 24 January 1375/6, also at Arundel, in his 70th
year, and was also buried at Lewes. Source CP 1:24393

*The post actually states ... [he about 7, she about 8], Isabel, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester..... I wrote to Utz [always optimistic Dave] , and he explained that the original reads as above but for some reason it did not get through that way in SGM. The post then reads for this line in error, and I have corrected it based on the following letter recieved jan 8 2002 "Hi--no, you are correct, the text should have read:...."

94. Michael Altschul, *A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The
Clares, 1217-1314*, Baltimore MD (Johns Hopkins Press) 1965. p 34-36 (and page 92 where noted in detail)
Cited by Gordon Fisher in SGM
Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net
95. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, date and place.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
96. Michael Altschul, *A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The
Clares, 1217-1314*, Baltimore MD (Johns Hopkins Press) 1965. p 34-36 (and page 92 where noted in detail)
Cited by Gordon Fisher in SGM
Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net date.
97. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib shown as mother of dtr eliz.
98. Presidential Data base through Hull Univ, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents, Sited by Brian Thompsett of Hull Univ Data Base, Funk&Wagnall's, Presidents00967.
99. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal05741.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
100. SGM post with general citation
From: Alan LaVergne (yoken@IBM.NET)
Subject: Re: Eleanor PLANTAGENET or DE BOHUN?
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1997/04/05
URL
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3346B77F.53B2%40ibm.net

Text Reads
"These two ladies married different Richards:

Richard Fitzalan, 3rd Earl of Arundel, born ca 1307,
died 24 jan 1376. Leader of English expeditions in
Scotland and France.

The 3rd Earl married first (ca 1321, div. 1345) Isabel
Despenser, daughter of Hugh Despenser the Younger
(who was executed in 1326), with issue:
Philippa (married Richard Sergeaux, Cornwall)
Isabel (or Mary), married John Strange (d 1361),
4th Baron, Blackmere.


The 3rd Earl married 2ndly 1346 Eleanor Plantagenet
(1318-1372), daughter of Henry, 3rd Earl Lancaster.
with issue:
Richard, 4th Earl (see below).
John, ancestor of the 6th Earl (see below).
Thomas (d 19 feb 1413), archbishop of Canterbury and
Lord Chancellor of England. He led persecution of
the Lollards.
Joan, married Humphrey de Bohun (1340-1372), 8th Earl
Hereford. (Mary, daughter of Joan and Humphrey,
married King Henry IV.)
Alice, married 1366 Thomas Holand (b. 1350,
d. 25 Apr 1397), 2nd Earl Kent, and had issue.
Eleanor, married Robert de Ufford.

Richard Fitzalan, 4th Earl, one of the five Lords Appellant
and opponent of Richard II, executed in Richard's coup
in 1397.

The 4th Earl married first, in 1359 (when he could not have
been more than 13) Elizabeth de Bohun, sister of the 8th
Earl Hereford mentioned above, with issue:
Thomas (d 1415), 5th Earl (married Beatrix of Portugal).
When the 5th Earl died without issue, the title passed
to his relative the 6th Earl (see below).
Elizabeth m 1st William Montagu (killed in a joust
in 1383); m 2nd Thomas Mowbray (d 1399), 1st Duke of
Norfolk, another of the Lords Appellant, with 4 issue;
m 3rd Robert Goushill (d ca 1403) of Hoveringham,
with 2 issue.
Joan, married William Beauchamp, Lord Bergavenny,
with issue.
Margaret, married Rowland Henthall, of Hampton Court
Alice, married ca 1390 John Charlton, 4th Baron.
She was apparently the mother by Henry Beaufort
(1375-1447), bishop of Winchester, of Jane
(born about 1400), who married Edward Stradling,
this line leading to Abigail Adams and FDR.

The 4th Earl married 2ndly, after 1391, Philippa Mortimer
(d 1401)

John Fitzalan (d 1379), marshal of England in 1377, younger
son of the 3rd Earl, married before 1365, Eleanor Lady
Maltravers (d 1405). Their son John Fitzalan (1365-1391)
married 1385 Elizabeth Despenser (daughter of Edward,
5th Baron) with issue:
John Fitzalan (1385-1421), 6th Earl of Arundel.
Thomas, of Beechwood/Betchworth. Thomas's daughter Eleanor
was mother of Sir George Browne (1440-1483) of Betchworth
mentioned in the Tewkesbury Roll, and her second husband
Thomas Vaughan (1425-1483), Tretower, is also mentioned
in the Roll.
Margaret (d 1439), married 1394 William de Ros (d 1414),
7th Baron.

** Source: mostly Burke's Peerage.
** Also, "Battle of Tewkesbury, A Roll of Arms"
by Geoffrey Wheeler (1971).
** The Adams/FDR datum presumably from the Roberts book.

Alan LaVergne
Palo Alto CA" names Isabel's father as Hugh the Younger, see post in footnote.
101. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib shown as father of dtr eliz.
102. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, date, place and circumstance-see narrative for source details.
103. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, sir james.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
104. Ibid. James The Just, Baron Berkeley 1st DE BERKELEY.
105. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib James Berkeley 6th Lord Berkeley,.
106. Ibid. Edward [Rev] FOLIOT.
107. Mrs. Annie Tucker Tyler Williamsburg Virginia, "Thomas Hansford: First Native Martyr to American Liberty," Found online at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Dave_Rigney/history/0572.htm, a paper read before the Virginia Historical Society Tuesday, December 22, 1891, Edward [Rev] FOLIOTT.
108. Ibid. Elizabeth Foliott.
109. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib Elizabeth Foliot.
110. "Family of Richard Burt "The Elder" and 1) Elizabeth Hansford 2) Elizabeth Moody," From the Burt Family Webpages, study names "The primary researcher of this line is Bill Adams, badams@tca.net.", Excellent Sources provided, http://www.rootsweb.com/~burtsou/richard_elder.html, Part of Burt Family Genealogy maintained by Barbara Goodson, bgoodson@mail.utexas.edu, and found at ahttp://www.rootsweb.com/~burtsou/index.html, Copyright Data Viewable at Website., Elizabeth Foliot.
111. Mrs. Annie Tucker Tyler Williamsburg Virginia, "Thomas Hansford: First Native Martyr to American Liberty," Found online at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Dave_Rigney/history/0572.htm, a paper read before the Virginia Historical Society Tuesday, December 22, 1891.
112. "Family of Richard Burt "The Elder" and 1) Elizabeth Hansford 2) Elizabeth Moody," From the Burt Family Webpages, study names "The primary researcher of this line is Bill Adams, badams@tca.net.", Excellent Sources provided, http://www.rootsweb.com/~burtsou/richard_elder.html, Part of Burt Family Genealogy maintained by Barbara Goodson, bgoodson@mail.utexas.edu, and found at ahttp://www.rootsweb.com/~burtsou/index.html, Copyright Data Viewable at Website.
113. Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs.
References at source:
For Hon William Cole, marriages, Children
Ref; Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies; "Winston of Virginia and Allied Families" , 1927, by Clayton Torrence
For Col William Cole, Marriage, Children:
Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies
"Cole vs Claiborne Lawsuit p. 340 [264] Virginia Reports, Court of Appeals, Vol. 1 [1823] by Washington. And a Family document in possession of Robt F Cole, Miami, Florida"
For Richard Col: Will of Richard Cole dated 7 Nov 1780, proved 12 feb 1781 [W B 3, p 281, Louisa County]
For William Cole and Eleanor Bibb, Children
Land Deed, Book "I" p 714, Louisa County"

GFFHlib
114. Ibid. page 2527.
115. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html.
116. Ibid. date and place.
117. Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs.
References at source:
For Hon William Cole, marriages, Children
Ref; Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies; "Winston of Virginia and Allied Families" , 1927, by Clayton Torrence
For Col William Cole, Marriage, Children:
Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies
"Cole vs Claiborne Lawsuit p. 340 [264] Virginia Reports, Court of Appeals, Vol. 1 [1823] by Washington. And a Family document in possession of Robt F Cole, Miami, Florida"
For Richard Col: Will of Richard Cole dated 7 Nov 1780, proved 12 feb 1781 [W B 3, p 281, Louisa County]
For William Cole and Eleanor Bibb, Children
Land Deed, Book "I" p 714, Louisa County"

GFFHlib date.
118. Ibid. p 2520.
119. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, place and date.
120. Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs.
References at source:
For Hon William Cole, marriages, Children
Ref; Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies; "Winston of Virginia and Allied Families" , 1927, by Clayton Torrence
For Col William Cole, Marriage, Children:
Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies
"Cole vs Claiborne Lawsuit p. 340 [264] Virginia Reports, Court of Appeals, Vol. 1 [1823] by Washington. And a Family document in possession of Robt F Cole, Miami, Florida"
For Richard Col: Will of Richard Cole dated 7 Nov 1780, proved 12 feb 1781 [W B 3, p 281, Louisa County]
For William Cole and Eleanor Bibb, Children
Land Deed, Book "I" p 714, Louisa County"

GFFHlib 1780 Louisa County, Virginia.
121. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, 1780.
122. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 Pattey [Martha] Cole.
123. Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs.
References at source:
For Hon William Cole, marriages, Children
Ref; Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies; "Winston of Virginia and Allied Families" , 1927, by Clayton Torrence
For Col William Cole, Marriage, Children:
Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies
"Cole vs Claiborne Lawsuit p. 340 [264] Virginia Reports, Court of Appeals, Vol. 1 [1823] by Washington. And a Family document in possession of Robt F Cole, Miami, Florida"
For Richard Col: Will of Richard Cole dated 7 Nov 1780, proved 12 feb 1781 [W B 3, p 281, Louisa County]
For William Cole and Eleanor Bibb, Children
Land Deed, Book "I" p 714, Louisa County"

GFFHlib Martha Cole.
124. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, Martha (Patsy) Cole.
125. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, Martha or Patty Cole.
126. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
GF FH L
http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 about 1742.
127. Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs.
References at source:
For Hon William Cole, marriages, Children
Ref; Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies; "Winston of Virginia and Allied Families" , 1927, by Clayton Torrence
For Col William Cole, Marriage, Children:
Swem's Index to Virginia Genealogies
"Cole vs Claiborne Lawsuit p. 340 [264] Virginia Reports, Court of Appeals, Vol. 1 [1823] by Washington. And a Family document in possession of Robt F Cole, Miami, Florida"
For Richard Col: Will of Richard Cole dated 7 Nov 1780, proved 12 feb 1781 [W B 3, p 281, Louisa County]
For William Cole and Eleanor Bibb, Children
Land Deed, Book "I" p 714, Louisa County"

GFFHlib p 2520 1740.
128. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, 1740.
129. J. GOFORTH [maclover@flash.net ], The Source page shows GOOD sources, but they are not linked at entries, "ONE BRANCH FROM EARTH'S FAMILY TREE," All rights reserved. Copyright 2000, J. Goforth, http://www.flash.net/~maclover/WC_TOC.HTM, Source page http://www.flash.net/~maclover/source.html, but source calls her Martha Coleman, in error 1740.
130. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 abt 1787 Va.
131. J. GOFORTH [maclover@flash.net ], The Source page shows GOOD sources, but they are not linked at entries, "ONE BRANCH FROM EARTH'S FAMILY TREE," All rights reserved. Copyright 2000, J. Goforth, http://www.flash.net/~maclover/WC_TOC.HTM, Source page http://www.flash.net/~maclover/source.html, 1787 , but source calls her Martha COLEMAN.
132. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, 1763 [alot of kids for a 23 year old] [1787].
133. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, about 1787.
134. Link to source on web Unsourced tree http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html.
135. J. GOFORTH [maclover@flash.net ], The Source page shows GOOD sources, but they are not linked at entries, "ONE BRANCH FROM EARTH'S FAMILY TREE," All rights reserved. Copyright 2000, J. Goforth, http://www.flash.net/~maclover/WC_TOC.HTM, Source page http://www.flash.net/~maclover/source.html, Martha Coleman 1740-1787-the NAME is in error, the dates under research.
136. Will Louisa Co., Va . Book of Chancery Orders 1792-1797 page 188. Mentioned as son in his father's will.
137. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073.
138. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
GF FH L
http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 about 1743.
139. Link to source on web 1739 unsourced http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html.
140. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, 1739.
141. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
GF FH L
http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 1819.
142. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, 1819 Louisa County, Virginia.
143. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, 1819.
144.
145. J. GOFORTH [maclover@flash.net ], The Source page shows GOOD sources, but they are not linked at entries, "ONE BRANCH FROM EARTH'S FAMILY TREE," All rights reserved. Copyright 2000, J. Goforth, http://www.flash.net/~maclover/WC_TOC.HTM, Source page http://www.flash.net/~maclover/source.html, 1765.
146. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 1760 about.
147. will abstract "William McGehee; Louisa Co, VA; Pr 8 Feb 1819
Will Book 6, page 76, Louisa Co, VA
Dated 22 Jan 1817
Proved 8 Feb 1819
Wife Bathsheba
Children Lidia Thomasson, Samuel, Nancy McGehee, Polly Poindexter, William, Patsy Hullum, Elizabeth Gooch, Nathaniel Madison
McGehee
Son-in-laws Samuel Thomasson, William Poindexter, D. W. Hullum, and Rowland Gooch"
From http://members.aol.com/eleanorcol/McGeheeWills.html#WilliamMcGeheeLouisa mentioned as son Samuel McGehee.
148. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
GF FH L
http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 date.
149. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, date and place.
150. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 date and Meriwether County, Georgia at home of son Thomas.
151. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, date and Meriwether County, Georgia.
152. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, Nancy Tate or Tait (1769-1824) ,Louisa County,Virginia.
153. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
GF FH L
http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346
154. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, 26 OCT 1824 in Elbert County, Georgia.
155. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 feb 12 1789.
156. MCGEHEE MARRIAGES part of an extensive McGehee study website, this URL is http://members.aol.com/eleanorcol/McGeheeMarriages.html#Virginia.
NO sources for this record [5 Feb 1789] "Samuel MCGEHEE m. Nancy TATE, 05 Feb 1789".
157. Louisa County Va Marriages Indexed by Husband
http://trevilians.com/marriagh.htm
Source states "Most of this data was taken from 'Index To Marriages - 1865-1941' (Film # 0032217); Other data was obtained from earlier Marriage Books, and information
submitted by other researchers. To approximate the year of marriage (for Marriages found in Book # 3), I have found the following correlation between
page numbers and year: Page 3 = 1867; 30 = 1888; 40 = 1896; 58 = 1907; 75 = 1919; 85 = 1926; 90 = 1930; 103 = 1939 " [9 Feb 1789, sec/wit: Zinnie Tate] shown twice once as Nancy, another as Nancy Ann "McGehee, Samuel. Tate, Nancy. 1-43. 2/9/1789 , Louisa County. sec/wit: Zinnie Tate".
158. Dorothy Ford Wulfeck. "Marriages of Some Virginia Residents 1607-1800" Volume I Surnames A-H. Genealogic Publishing Company. Baltimore . 1986.
Originally published in seven volumes Volume 1 {surnames A-B) 1961; Volume 2 (Surnames C-E) 1963 ; Volume 3 (Surnames F-H) 1963; Volum 4 (Surnames I-Me) 1964; Volume 5 (Surnames Mi-Q) 1966; Volume 6 (surnames R0S) 1967; Volume 7 (Surnames T-Z 1967. Repreinted, seven volumes in two, by Genealogical Publishing CO., Inc. Baltimore 1986. Lib of Congress Catalogues Number 85-81171 12 Feb 1789.
159. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 Dr William Jefferson McGehee, p 338.
160. "Descendants Chart COLE, BIBB, BYARS, ALLEN, SMITH," Largely sourced to secondary sources, active researcher, kmcgehee03@earthlink.net, http://home.earthlink.net/~kmcgee03/dtadscole.html, William Jefferson McGehee, [Dr].
161. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 5 Nov 1802.
162. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, 5 Nov 1802 Elbert County, Georgia.
163. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 1864.
164. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, 1864 Macon County, Alabama.
165. Pettigrew, Marion Dewoody. McGehee Report Within Tome, Pages 327-339 Entitled "Marks-Barnett families and their kin : including Anderson, Bennett, Bernard, Cargile, Crawford, Eubanks, Gaines, Harvie, Jamison,Matthews, Meriwether, Stark, Tomkins : also royal lines on many branches ..., notes on numerous other families ... : war records, deeds, wills, marriages and random notes, gleaned from southern history, court records, family Bibles, family letters, etc. " City of Publication: Macon, Ga. Publisher: J.W. Burke Co. Date: 1939
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http://flh.genealogy.com/gc/genealogy/image?docID=Genealogy-glh11913164&imageNumber=346 Americus Booker, page 338.
166. Father's will names this child My dtr Americus McGehee.
167. "McGehee Family [from the unsourced world family tree of excellent researcher Eleanor Colson, who also has McGehee pages on the web]," Contact: Eleanor Colson <EleanorCol@aol.com>, http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=eleanor&id=I07073, 1839 in Macon County, Alabama [1805 in Wilkes County, Georgia ].
168.  Early Records of Georgia vol1 and 2
McGeehee, William J. America Booker Jan. 2, 1827 389
  McCarty Oliver, M.G. [not sure what role McCarty played]
Genforum library
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/3416/3416_501.html?Welcome=1017116622 in Wilkes County, Georgia [McCarty Oliver, M.G. ] 2 Jan 1827.
169. Web pages of Mcgehee Family mounted by James Randle, "McGehee Marriages; Part of the McGehee family pages at http://members.aol.com/eleanorcol/McGehGen1.html," http://members.aol.com/eleanorcol/McGeheeMarriages.html, Unsourced, but extensive McGehee work, William J. MCGEHEE m. America BOOKER, 02 Jan 1827 Wilkes County, Georgia.
170. From A part of the USGenWeb Project and the web pages of "Wilkes County
Georgia" Main page : http://www.rootsweb.com/~gawilkes/
We page of FIRST MARRIAGE BOOK
1806-1834
Arranged Alphabetically as to Men's Names
"The original file was provided by Sue Meinhart of California for submission to the Wilkes County, GA resources section. It has been reformated and sorted into full alphabetical order by bride on this page. Most likely, errors managed to get into the files as I reworked them. Please, rather than getting upset, give me documented corrections and I will be happy to correct the errors. I have delayed posting these pages, as I have found contridictions to other published sources of similar data. I feel that even with the possible errors, it should be posted. I will try to get to Wilkes County (if gas prices and time allows it ... during the summer) and see if I can do the corrections in a day or so. In the mean time, use it only as a guide and not as 100% accurate. "
Reads in part:
"McGahee, William Mary Arnold Mar. 26, 1829 455
McGeehee, William J. America Booker Jan. 2, 1827 389"


Not related and not from site, for research:

Putnam Co, GA MARRIAGES From 1807 to 1850 , Page 26
, Catherine |05/12/1814 | |McGEHEE, William | marr. |ALLEN, Ann |08/01/
|ALLEN, Ann |08/01/1827

Unlikely as first child born way past birth date
171. Presidential Data base through Hull Univ, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents, Sited by Brian Thompsett of Hull Univ Data Base, Funk&Wagnall's, Presidents01083.
172. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:244. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"15. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, Earl of Arundel, and Earl of Surrey, son and heir, by
2nd wife, born in 1346. He was bearer of the Crown at the coronation of
Richard II, 16 July 1377, was a member of the Council, and was made Admiral
of the West and South, 1377, and subsequently, 1386, of all England. K.G.,
distinguished himself in the French Wars, and "won a brilliant naval victory
over the French, Spanish, & Flemish fleets off Margate in 24 March 1387"; and
was made Governor of Brest in 1388, being one of the five Lords Appellant in
the Parliament of that year. Together with the Duke of Gloucester he later
took an active part in the opposition to King Richard, who, in 1388, was
entirely in that Duke's power. In 1394 he obtained a pardon for all
political offences, but was treacherously seized, 12 July 1397, tried at
Westminster, and beheaded at Cheapside on 21 September 1397. He married
[contract dated 28 September, Papal dispensation, the same month, 1359]
Elizabeth, daughter of William [Bohun], Earl of Northampton, by Elizabeth,
daughter of Bartholomew Badlesmere. She died 3 April 1385, and was buried at
Lewes. He married 2ndly [without Royal license, for which he was fined 500
marks], 15 August 1390, Philippe, widow of John Hastings, and daughter of
Edmund [Mortimer], Earl of March, by Philippe, daughter and heir of Lionel,
Duke of Clarence. He was buried at Austin Friars', in Bread Street, London,
and, having been attainted, all his honors were forfeited. His widow [by
whom he had no issue] was born 21 November 1375, at Ludlow, married 3rdly,
after April 1398, Thomas [Poynings], Lord St. John of Basing, and died 24
September 1401, at Halnaker, Sussex, being buried at Boxgrove. Source CP
1:244" Elizabeth, daughter of William [Bohun], Earl of Northampton, by Elizabeth, daughter of Bartholomew Badlesmere.
173. Ibid.
174. Presidential Data base through Hull Univ, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents, Sited by Brian Thompsett of Hull Univ Data Base, Funk&Wagnall's, Presidents01085.
175. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal03274.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
176. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). before 1347 see narrative, cited in SGM with URL provided.
177. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:244. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"15. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, Earl of Arundel, and Earl of Surrey, son and heir, by
2nd wife, born in 1346. He was bearer of the Crown at the coronation of
Richard II, 16 July 1377, was a member of the Council, and was made Admiral
of the West and South, 1377, and subsequently, 1386, of all England. K.G.,
distinguished himself in the French Wars, and "won a brilliant naval victory
over the French, Spanish, & Flemish fleets off Margate in 24 March 1387"; and
was made Governor of Brest in 1388, being one of the five Lords Appellant in
the Parliament of that year. Together with the Duke of Gloucester he later
took an active part in the opposition to King Richard, who, in 1388, was
entirely in that Duke's power. In 1394 he obtained a pardon for all
political offences, but was treacherously seized, 12 July 1397, tried at
Westminster, and beheaded at Cheapside on 21 September 1397. He married
[contract dated 28 September, Papal dispensation, the same month, 1359]
Elizabeth, daughter of William [Bohun], Earl of Northampton, by Elizabeth,
daughter of Bartholomew Badlesmere. She died 3 April 1385, and was buried at
Lewes. He married 2ndly [without Royal license, for which he was fined 500
marks], 15 August 1390, Philippe, widow of John Hastings, and daughter of
Edmund [Mortimer], Earl of March, by Philippe, daughter and heir of Lionel,
Duke of Clarence. He was buried at Austin Friars', in Bread Street, London,
and, having been attainted, all his honors were forfeited. His widow [by
whom he had no issue] was born 21 November 1375, at Ludlow, married 3rdly,
after April 1398, Thomas [Poynings], Lord St. John of Basing, and died 24
September 1401, at Halnaker, Sussex, being buried at Boxgrove. Source CP
1:244" 1346.
178. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). See narrative.
179. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal03279.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
180. Presidential Data base through Hull Univ, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents, Sited by Brian Thompsett of Hull Univ Data Base, Funk&Wagnall's, Presidents01087.
181. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib Elizabeth FitzAlan.
182. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, William DE MONTACUTE.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
183. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). William de Montagu-cited in SGM [see narrative] in post From: RBodine996 Subject: Re: Sir Robert Goushill Date: 1999/12/15 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=19991214223502.22558.00001093%40ng-bk1.aol.com.
184. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 22 Sep 1400 Venice.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
185. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib 1399.
186. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). cited in SGM, see narrative, From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com) Subject: Re: Sir Robert Goushill Date: 1999/12/14 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=0.7bc92150.2587d8c0%40aol.com.
187. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, From: Leo van de Pas Subject: Sir Robert Goushill Date: 1999/12/14 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Richard+,+Earl+Of+Arundel+11th&hl=en&rnum=6&selm=008801bf4639%245349f820%2425453bcb%40leo.
188. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=1&selm=5cf47a19.0110042100.715cfb3c%40posting.google.com.
189. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1342.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
190. "Paul B. McBride's Genealogy SOURCED at LOCATION," Sources vary in their reliability, but general sources are given for all entries, GREAT SITE [Much Midieval Geneology], pbmcbride@rcn.com., http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pmcbride/genweb.html, viewed 062801, Sources provided: Key to references: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pmcbride/rfc/ref.htm, Paul B. McBride, 10-25 May 1342.
191. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Richard, Earl Of Arundel 10th FITZALAN.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
192. Ibid. 24 Jan 1376.
193. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). 1375/6-see narrative.
194. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1 :243. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"14. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, called "Copped Hat" son and heir of Edmund [12th Earl
of Arundel], born about 1313. In 1330-31 he was fully restored in blood and
honours and in December of that year obtained restitution of the Castle and
Honour of Arundel from the widow of John, Earl of Kent, becoming Earl of
Arundel; he took a distinguished part in the wars with France; Admiral of the
West 1340-41 and 1347-47; commanded the second division at the Battle of
Crécy, and was at the fall of Calais in 1347; on June 30, 1347 he succeeded
to the vast estates of the family of Warenne, by the death, s.p.legit of his
mother's brother, John, Earl of Surrey and Sussex. By fine levied 1349-50,
he settled the Castle, town, and manor of Arundel on himself and his [then]
wife Eleanor, for their joint lives, with remainder to the heirs male of his
body by his said wife. On the death of Joan, the widow of his said uncle,
John, Earl of Surrey, in 1361, but not before, he assumed the title of Earl
of Surrey, and in 1366 settled the Warenne estates on his issue. He married,
1stly, 9 February 1320/1, in the King's Chapel at Havering-atte-Bower [he
about 7, she about 8], isabel, daughter and co-heir of Sir Hugh le Despenser the younger, [Lord le Despenser]*, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester. Obtained 4 December 1344, a Papal mandate for the
annulment of his marriage to Isabel le Despenser, on the ground of his
minority and of his never willingly consented to the match. he married
2ndly, 5 February 1344/5, at Ditton, [a lady with whom he had previously
cohabited], Eleanor, widow of John de Beaumont [2nd Lord Beaumont], daughter
of Henry, Earl of Lancaster, by Maud, daughter and heir of Sir Patrick de
Chawices or Chaworth. She, who was 1st cousin to his 1st wife, and 2nd
cousin once removed to the Earl, died 11 January 1372, at Arundel, and was
buried at Lewes. He died 24 January 1375/6, also at Arundel, in his 70th
year, and was also buried at Lewes. Source CP 1:24393

*The post actually states ... [he about 7, she about 8], Isabel, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester..... I wrote to Utz [always optimistic Dave] , and he explained that the original reads as above but for some reason it did not get through that way in SGM. The post then reads for this line in error, and I have corrected it based on the following letter recieved jan 8 2002 "Hi--no, you are correct, the text should have read:...."

195. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal03277.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
196. Presidential Data base through Hull Univ, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents, Sited by Brian Thompsett of Hull Univ Data Base, Funk&Wagnall's, Presidents01088.
197. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, date and Ludlow Castle, Shropshire.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
198. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:244. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"15. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, Earl of Arundel, and Earl of Surrey, son and heir, by
2nd wife, born in 1346. He was bearer of the Crown at the coronation of
Richard II, 16 July 1377, was a member of the Council, and was made Admiral
of the West and South, 1377, and subsequently, 1386, of all England. K.G.,
distinguished himself in the French Wars, and "won a brilliant naval victory
over the French, Spanish, & Flemish fleets off Margate in 24 March 1387"; and
was made Governor of Brest in 1388, being one of the five Lords Appellant in
the Parliament of that year. Together with the Duke of Gloucester he later
took an active part in the opposition to King Richard, who, in 1388, was
entirely in that Duke's power. In 1394 he obtained a pardon for all
political offences, but was treacherously seized, 12 July 1397, tried at
Westminster, and beheaded at Cheapside on 21 September 1397. He married
[contract dated 28 September, Papal dispensation, the same month, 1359]
Elizabeth, daughter of William [Bohun], Earl of Northampton, by Elizabeth,
daughter of Bartholomew Badlesmere. She died 3 April 1385, and was buried at
Lewes. He married 2ndly [without Royal license, for which he was fined 500
marks], 15 August 1390, Philippe, widow of John Hastings, and daughter of
Edmund [Mortimer], Earl of March, by Philippe, daughter and heir of Lionel,
Duke of Clarence. He was buried at Austin Friars', in Bread Street, London,
and, having been attainted, all his honors were forfeited. His widow [by
whom he had no issue] was born 21 November 1375, at Ludlow, married 3rdly,
after April 1398, Thomas [Poynings], Lord St. John of Basing, and died 24
September 1401, at Halnaker, Sussex, being buried at Boxgrove. Source CP
1:244" 21 November 1375, at Ludlow.
199. Ibid. Halnaker, Sussex,.
200. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, (Alisa).
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
201. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:233-35. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (Always Optimistic Dave)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 4-8
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/10
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a.6a13f316.25abb846%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"4. WILLIAM D'AUBIGNY) de Albiniaco or in the Anglo-Latin of Dugdale and other
writers, DE ALBINI, surnamed "the strong hand," Lord of the manor of
Buckenham, Norfolk, son and heir of William D'Aubigny (died 1139) Pincerna
Regis, by Maud, daughter of Roger LE BIGOD, was born early in the reign of
Henry I. On his marriage with the Queen Dowager, he acquired with her, in
1138 or 1139, the Castle and Honour of Arundel, which had been settled on her
in dower, whereby it may be considered that, according to the admission of
1433, he became EARL OF ARUNDEL. There is conclusive evidence from various
charters, that at, or about the time of, and probably soon after, his said
marriage, he was recognized as EARL OF LINCOLN, and he may be assumed to have
been so created in the summer of 1139. In this year he gave shelter to the
Empress Maud, at Arundel Castle, but ever after adhered to Stephen. He can
be shown to have very soon lost the Earldom of Lincoln, and in 1141 he
attested a charter of Stephen as EARL OF SUSSEX, (being from time to time
thereafter so described, as, e.g. where he witnesses a charter to the Abbey
of Barking under that name) and may be assumed to have been so created by
Stephen in 1141, after that King had regained his freedom. Early in 1142,
the Earldom of Lincoln had already passed to another, viz. William de
Roumare. In his own later charters he is styled, and in a charter, before
1150, of the Queen Dowager to the Abbey of Reading, she styles him EARL OF
CHICHESTER. He was influential in arranging the treaty of 1153, whereby the
Crown continued with King Stephen for life, though the inheritance thereof
was secured to Henry II. To this instrument he subscribed as "Comes
Cicestrie." Henry II, by a grant undated, but supposed to have been in 1155
(the year after his accession), confirms to him as "William, EARL OF ARUNDEL,
the Castle of Arundel, with the whole honour of Arundel and all its
appurtenances," and, by the same instrument, bestows on him the third penny
of the pleas of the county of SUSSEX unde Comes est. No doubt, however, he
was more generally known as "EARL OF ARUNDEL," and as such (only) he is
spoken of by his son and heir (who styles himself Earl of Sussex) in a
charter to the Priory of Wymondham; and as Earl of Arundel (only) he is
described in the record of his death in the Annals of Waverley. He was
justly held in great esteem by Henry II, and was one of the embassy to Rome
in 1163/4, and to Saxony (on the espousal of the Princess to the Duke of
Saxony) in 1168. He was also in command of the Royal army in August 1173, in
Normandy, against the King's rebellious sons, where he distinguished himself
for his "swiftness and velocity," and, on 29 September following he assisted
at the defeat, near Bury St. Edmunds, of the Earl of Leicester, who, with his
Flemings, had invaded Suffolk. He married, in 1138 (the 3rd year of her
widowhood) Adeliz, QUEEN DOWAGER OF ENGLAND (widow of Henry I), 1st daughter
of Godefroy à la Barbe, DUKE OF LOTHIER (i.e. Lorraine Inférieure), COUNT OF
BRABANT AND LOUVAIN, by his 1st wife, Ide, daughter of Albert III, COUNT OF
NAMUR. His wife, the Queen Dowager, retired in 1150 to a nunnery at
Afflighem, in South Brabant, where she died, and was buried 23 April 1151,
aged about 48. He survived her 25 years, and died 12 October 1176, at
Waverley Abbey, Surrey, and was buried, with his father, at Wymondham Priory,
Norfolk. Source CP 1:233-35"
202. Ibid. source is clear of her burial date, the death date I have left more open. Refer to text.
203. " Stevens/Southworth/Medieval Database GREAT SITE-citations given," Gedcom with good source notations.varying in reliability. ALso ften transcribes from SGM for careful cross referencing and where this data base is extremely helpful., jimstevens@in.freei.net, http://www.gendex.com/users/jast/.
204. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Nest.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
205. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, cites CP and DNB.
206. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Elizabeth de Beaumont From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
207. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Isabel (Elizabeth) DE BEAUMONT.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
208. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Robert de Caen Mabel Fitz Hamon born ca. 1090, died 1157//uncited and undisputed post SGM URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=Pine.HPP.3.91.960229183650.20021A-100000%40eagle.uis.edu.
209. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, cites Complete Peerage vol.V,pp683-686.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
210. Ibid. Robert Of Gloucester De Mellent,Earl Of Gloucester DE CAEN.
211. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL.
212. Ibid. "Mabel Fitz Hamon born ca. 1090, died 1157 married Robert de Caen" uncited and undisputed post SGM URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=Pine.HPP.3.91.960229183650.20021A-100000%40eagle.uis.edu.
213. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" father to Amicia 106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov 1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23 Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.
214. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal01877 William Of Gloucester, Earl Of Gloucester, FITZROBERT.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
215. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov 1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23 Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.
216. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, states "The Complete Peerage vol.V,p688 is clear her mother was Amice.".
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
217. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" mother to Amicia. 107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150, William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.
218. Ibid.
219. Ibid. 24 Apr 1197.
220. Ibid. about 1150.
221. Ibid. 53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia died 1 Jan 1225.
222. Ibid. 52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare; born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia, Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.
223. Ibid. about 1153.
224. Ibid. 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.
225. Ibid. about 1180 divorced before 1200.
226. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). CP III, p 244, V, pp 694-6 & VI, (see narrative).
227. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
228. Ibid. 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England.
229. Ibid. Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,Gloucestershire, England.
230. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, see narrative diplomatic mission for Henry III.
231. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;..died 17 Jan 1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu Abbey, Hampshire, England.
232. Ibid. 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales.
233. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, In Childbirth At Berkhamsted Castle, Hertf 17 Jan 1240.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
234. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England 17 Jan 1240.
235. Ibid. 9 Oct 1217 Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.
236. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). CP III, p 291 & V, pp 696-702 see narrative.
237. Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, , 7th edition, Baltimore MD (Genealogical Publishing Co) 1992-3, p 67 "Sir Richard (3) de CLARE 8th Earl of Clare, etc" , -cited in SGM by Gordon Fisher Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net.
238. Ibid. p 67 -cited in SGM by Gordon Fisher Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net.
239. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, July 15, 1262 and place.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
240. Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, , 7th edition, Baltimore MD (Genealogical Publishing Co) 1992-3, July 15, 1262 p 67 -cited in SGM by Gordon Fisher Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net.
241. Michael Altschul, *A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The
Clares, 1217-1314*, Baltimore MD (Johns Hopkins Press) 1965. p 34-36 (and page 92 where noted in detail)
Cited by Gordon Fisher in SGM
Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net July 15, 1262.
242. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Maude de Lacy.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
243. Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, , 7th edition, Baltimore MD (Genealogical Publishing Co) 1992-3, Maude COuntess of Lincoln, De LACY.
244. Ibid. p 67 "bef 10 Mar 1289" -cited in SGM by Gordon Fisher Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net.
245. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, cites The Complete Peerage vol.VII,p.200 and The Complete Peerage vol.V,p701 note h.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
246. Ibid. Juliane FITZGERALD.
247. Ibid. cites The Complete Peerage vol.I,pp.148-149.
248. Ibid. 14 april 1322.
249. Michael Altschul, *A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The
Clares, 1217-1314*, Baltimore MD (Johns Hopkins Press) 1965. p 34-36 (and page 92 where noted in detail)
Cited by Gordon Fisher in SGM
Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net 1322.
250. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Roger, Lord Mowbray 1st DE MOWBRAY.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
251. Michael Altschul, *A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The
Clares, 1217-1314*, Baltimore MD (Johns Hopkins Press) 1965. p 34-36 (and page 92 where noted in detail)
Cited by Gordon Fisher in SGM
Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net Roger de Mowbray, lord of the Yorkshire barony of Thirsk.
252. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1297 Ghent.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
253. Michael Altschul, *A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The
Clares, 1217-1314*, Baltimore MD (Johns Hopkins Press) 1965. p 34-36 (and page 92 where noted in detail)
Cited by Gordon Fisher in SGM
Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net 1297.
254. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib 1298.
255. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
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----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
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----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
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------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
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-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
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---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
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-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
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--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
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--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" Mentioned in ascent from Son Robert , "628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294 " married "629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254 ".
256. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE, Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.
257. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 342 , giving descent Bruce, to Stewart to Hamilton to Dundas to Logan of Restalrig and James Logan PEnna.
258. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" In ascent from son Robert "628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294 " married "629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254 ".
259. Ibid. Mentioned in ascent from Son Robert , states death after 1254 "628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294 " married "629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254 ".
260. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1254.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
261. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" Re ascent son Robert"628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294 " married "629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254 ".
262. Ibid. 628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294.
263. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" "12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale".
264. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" d Bef May 1294 [info in ascent son Robert] "628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294 " married "629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254 ".
265. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1295, no month.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
266. Dictionary of World History, The bath press limited, Bath, England 1997, 1295, no month.
267. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 12 May 1240.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
268. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" 1240 "628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294 " married "629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254 ".
269. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick.
270. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 342, giving descent from dtr Isabel [via Hamilton, Dundas] to Logan.
271. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" Robert Bruce 3rd Lord Annandale Giving ascent from dtr Mary "314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef 4 Apr 1304 ".
272. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Robert Earl Of Carrick DE BRUCE.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
273. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" Giving ascent from dtr Mary "314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef 4 Apr 1304 ".
274. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 1243.
275. Ibid. before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine.
276. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1304.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
277. Mike Ashley, The mammoth book of British Kings and Queens, Julian Lock, 1999 Carrol and Graff Publishers 19 W 21 St, NY, Robert Le Bruce chart 23.
278. Suzanne Doig post in SGM-Ahnentafel Report, SEE ALSO SOURCE # 1358 where Ahnentafel is provided, "Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR Date 1998/12/22," http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alesta+of+Mar&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz, No sources provided, but Suzanne is a freqent contributor at SGM and has her own webpages with sources mentioned, Suzanne's web pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4038/geneal.htm, Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick.
279. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal01830 Robert Earl Of Carrick DE BRUCE.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
280. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
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10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" Robert Bruce 3rd Lord Annandale.
281. Suzanne Doig post in SGM-Ahnentafel Report, SEE ALSO SOURCE # 1358 where Ahnentafel is provided, "Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR Date 1998/12/22," http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alesta+of+Mar&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz, No sources provided, but Suzanne is a freqent contributor at SGM and has her own webpages with sources mentioned, Suzanne's web pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4038/geneal.htm, Marjorie, Countess of Carrick.
282. Pages providing info from Complete Peerage, "the Erskin Clan Website ( The Earldom of Mar Page of )," Pages of erskin@zwallet.com, GREAT SITE http://www.angelfire.com/tn/erskin/gene6.html, of The Erskin Clan Website http://erskinclan.mygoldclub.com/gene6.html, Pages providing info from Complete Peerage [from The Complete Peerage, or a history of the House of Lords and all its memebers from the earliest times. ], Margaret, suo jure Countess of Carrick.
283. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Marjorie of Carrick, Countess of Carrick.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
284. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
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2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
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3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
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4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
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5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
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6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
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7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
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8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
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9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
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10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" showing ascent from dtr Mary "315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292".
285. [Burke's] CARRICK, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, granddtr of Duncan of Carrick.
286. Suzanne Doig post in SGM-Ahnentafel Report, SEE ALSO SOURCE # 1358 where Ahnentafel is provided, "Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR Date 1998/12/22," http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alesta+of+Mar&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz, No sources provided, but Suzanne is a freqent contributor at SGM and has her own webpages with sources mentioned, Suzanne's web pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4038/geneal.htm, Bef 27 Oct 1292.
287. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1271 Turnberry Castle.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
288. Suzanne Doig post in SGM-Ahnentafel Report, SEE ALSO SOURCE # 1358 where Ahnentafel is provided, "Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR Date 1998/12/22," http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alesta+of+Mar&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz, No sources provided, but Suzanne is a freqent contributor at SGM and has her own webpages with sources mentioned, Suzanne's web pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4038/geneal.htm, 1271 Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland.
289. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Eleanor No Surname.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
290. Suzanne Doig post in SGM-Ahnentafel Report, SEE ALSO SOURCE # 1358 where Ahnentafel is provided, "Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR Date 1998/12/22," http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alesta+of+Mar&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz, No sources provided, but Suzanne is a freqent contributor at SGM and has her own webpages with sources mentioned, Suzanne's web pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4038/geneal.htm, Alianora No Surname.
291. Ibid. Mar/Oct 1330.
292. Ibid. after 1292.
293. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1292.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
294. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:236. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (Always Optimistic Dave)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 4-8
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/10
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a.6a13f316.25abb846%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"6. WILLIAM (D'AUBIGNY), EARL OF SUSSEX, and EARL OF ARUNDEL, son and heir.
He was a favourite of King John, whose concession of the Kingdom to the Pope,
15 May 1213, he witnessed, and whom he accompanied to Runnymede, 15 June
1215. When, however, King John abandoned Winchester, 14 June 1216, to Louis
(afterwards Louis VIII) of France, he joined that Prince, but (consistently
taking the winning side) returned to his allegiance I 4 July 12 I 7, after
the Royalist victory at Lincoln. Shortly afterwards he acted as JUSTICIAR,
the young King, Henry III, having restored to him his forfeited possessions.
He married Mabel 2nd daughter of Hugh (LE MESCHIN surnamed KEVELIOC), EARL OF
CHESTER, by Bertrade, daughter of Simon, COUNT OF EVREUX in Normandy. She,
in her issue, was (1232) one of the four coheirs to her brother Ranulph
(surnamed BLUNDEVILLE), EARL OF CHESTER. He embarked in the crusade of 12I8,
and was at the taking of Damietta in Nov. 1219, but died at Cainell, near
Rome, ("quoddam oppidulum Kainel nomine") shortly before 30 March 1221 [when
the news reached England], and was buried at Wymondham Priory. Source CP
1:236" Hugh (LE MESCHIN surnamed KEVELIOC), EARL OF Chester.
295. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, "Hugh Keveliok Le Meschin, 3rd Earl of Chester" From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
296. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, Cites G E C et al, Complete Peerage [27, Huntingdon art, Vol VI, p.637 seq],[27, Montford, Vol VII, Appx D, p.708 seq].
297. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1181.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
298. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, 1181.
299. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 30 June 1181 Leeke, Staffordshire- From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
300. Ingeborg Brigitte GASTEL, "Brigitte's Pages at WorldRoots.com," http://worldroots.com/brigitte/sitemap.htm, Brigitte@qrz.com, Calls him Earl of Chester 3.
301. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal01839 Hugh Earl Of Chester 6th DE KEVELIOC.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
302. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:236. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (Always Optimistic Dave)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 4-8
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/10
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a.6a13f316.25abb846%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"6. WILLIAM (D'AUBIGNY), EARL OF SUSSEX, and EARL OF ARUNDEL, son and heir.
He was a favourite of King John, whose concession of the Kingdom to the Pope,
15 May 1213, he witnessed, and whom he accompanied to Runnymede, 15 June
1215. When, however, King John abandoned Winchester, 14 June 1216, to Louis
(afterwards Louis VIII) of France, he joined that Prince, but (consistently
taking the winning side) returned to his allegiance I 4 July 12 I 7, after
the Royalist victory at Lincoln. Shortly afterwards he acted as JUSTICIAR,
the young King, Henry III, having restored to him his forfeited possessions.
He married Mabel 2nd daughter of Hugh (LE MESCHIN surnamed KEVELIOC), EARL OF
CHESTER, by Bertrade, daughter of Simon, COUNT OF EVREUX in Normandy. She,
in her issue, was (1232) one of the four coheirs to her brother Ranulph
(surnamed BLUNDEVILLE), EARL OF CHESTER. He embarked in the crusade of 12I8,
and was at the taking of Damietta in Nov. 1219, but died at Cainell, near
Rome, ("quoddam oppidulum Kainel nomine") shortly before 30 March 1221 [when
the news reached England], and was buried at Wymondham Priory. Source CP
1:236" Bertrade, daughter of Simon, COUNT OF EVREUX in Normandy.
303. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
304. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, Bertrade D'EVREUX.
305. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Maud of Chester-From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
306. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 342 , giving descent Huntingdon, Bruce, to Stewart to Hamilton to Dundas to Logan of Restalrig and James Logan PEnna.
307. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 6 Jan 1233.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
308. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, ca 1231-From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
309. http://genweb.net/~stotts/index/ind0042.html, http://genweb.net/~stotts/sources.html#S362.
310. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp.
311. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 17 Jun 1219 Jerdelay- From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
312. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 17 Jun 1219 Yardley, Northants.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
313. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 17 June 1219.
314. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, INDEX=I8712 "Margaret Of Huntingdon?".
315. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Margaret of Huntingdon From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
316. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1228.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
317. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, 1228.
318. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 1233 From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
319. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Margaret.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
320. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, "Alan, Lord Of Galloway"From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
321. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Alan Lord of Galloway.
322. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.
323. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1251.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
324. GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives, http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/, Isabel Of Huntingdon.
325. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.
326. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, husband.
327. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294 " married "629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254 ".
328. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:236. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (Always Optimistic Dave)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 4-8
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/10
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a.6a13f316.25abb846%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"6. WILLIAM (D'AUBIGNY), EARL OF SUSSEX, and EARL OF ARUNDEL, son and heir.
He was a favourite of King John, whose concession of the Kingdom to the Pope,
15 May 1213, he witnessed, and whom he accompanied to Runnymede, 15 June
1215. When, however, King John abandoned Winchester, 14 June 1216, to Louis
(afterwards Louis VIII) of France, he joined that Prince, but (consistently
taking the winning side) returned to his allegiance I 4 July 12 I 7, after
the Royalist victory at Lincoln. Shortly afterwards he acted as JUSTICIAR,
the young King, Henry III, having restored to him his forfeited possessions.
He married Mabel 2nd daughter of Hugh (LE MESCHIN surnamed KEVELIOC), EARL OF
CHESTER, by Bertrade, daughter of Simon, COUNT OF EVREUX in Normandy. She,
in her issue, was (1232) one of the four coheirs to her brother Ranulph
(surnamed BLUNDEVILLE), EARL OF CHESTER. He embarked in the crusade of 12I8,
and was at the taking of Damietta in Nov. 1219, but died at Cainell, near
Rome, ("quoddam oppidulum Kainel nomine") shortly before 30 March 1221 [when
the news reached England], and was buried at Wymondham Priory. Source CP
1:236"
329. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, Mabel de Kivelioc.
330. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). Earl Of Arundel 3rd-Cites CP Vol I ARUNDEL From: Simon Pugh Subject: Counting the Earls of Arundel or aplogies to Leo . Date: 1998/12/08 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Isabel+d%27Aubigny&hl=en&rnum=2&selm=KZxrqCAjvYb2EwZ6%40mrzsp.demon.co.uk.
331. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, father to Isabel and Hugh.
332. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 30 March 1221.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
333. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). 1221- CP Vol I ARUNDEL cited by : Simon Pugh Subject: Counting the Earls of Arundel or aplogies to Leo . Date: 1998/12/08 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Isabel+d%27Aubigny&hl=en&rnum=2&selm=KZxrqCAjvYb2EwZ6%40mrzsp.demon.co.uk.
334. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:236. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (Always Optimistic Dave)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 4-8
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/10
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a.6a13f316.25abb846%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"6. WILLIAM (D'AUBIGNY), EARL OF SUSSEX, and EARL OF ARUNDEL, son and heir.
He was a favourite of King John, whose concession of the Kingdom to the Pope,
15 May 1213, he witnessed, and whom he accompanied to Runnymede, 15 June
1215. When, however, King John abandoned Winchester, 14 June 1216, to Louis
(afterwards Louis VIII) of France, he joined that Prince, but (consistently
taking the winning side) returned to his allegiance I 4 July 12 I 7, after
the Royalist victory at Lincoln. Shortly afterwards he acted as JUSTICIAR,
the young King, Henry III, having restored to him his forfeited possessions.
He married Mabel 2nd daughter of Hugh (LE MESCHIN surnamed KEVELIOC), EARL OF
CHESTER, by Bertrade, daughter of Simon, COUNT OF EVREUX in Normandy. She,
in her issue, was (1232) one of the four coheirs to her brother Ranulph
(surnamed BLUNDEVILLE), EARL OF CHESTER. He embarked in the crusade of 12I8,
and was at the taking of Damietta in Nov. 1219, but died at Cainell, near
Rome, ("quoddam oppidulum Kainel nomine") shortly before 30 March 1221 [when
the news reached England], and was buried at Wymondham Priory. Source CP
1:236" at Cainell, near Rome shortly before 30 March 1221(when the news reached England).
335. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp.
336. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, ca 1190-cites loosely CP, vol. i.,article on "Arundel"for entire line's post. From: Alan B. Wilson Subject: Re: William Fitz Alan ca. 1060 Date: 1997/03/20 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=v02120d00af5699c6bec3%40%5B136.152.71.59%5D.
337. Optimistic Dave (Utz@aol.com) soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, ca 1190 of Arundel, Sussex, England Subject: Re: FitzAlan/de Bohun Date: 1998/12/10 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=7&selm=b7550216.366fdc85%40aol.com.
338. Ibid. Subject: Re: FitzAlan/de Bohun Date: 1998/12/10 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=7&selm=b7550216.366fdc85%40aol.com.
339. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Isabel D'Aubigny- From: Alan B. Wilson Subject: Re: William Fitz Alan ca. 1060 Date: 1997/03/20 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=v02120d00af5699c6bec3%40%5B136.152.71.59%5D.
340. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Isabel DE ALBINI.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
341. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, John Fitzalan See narrative.
342. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, cites CP Arundel art, Vol I, p.230 and DNB Son, John II FitzAlan's article],[ Arundel art, Vol I, p.230 ].
343. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:239-40. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"9. JOHN FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry, Salop, son and heir of
JOHN FITZ ALAN of the same, by his 1st wife, Isabel, 2nd sister and, in her
issue, coheir of Hugh, and daughter of William (D'AUBIGNY), Earls of Sussex,
&c, succeeded his father (whom his mother had predeceased) in 1240. To him,
by writ dated 27 November 1243, was awarded [in right of his deceased mother]
the Castle and Honour of Arundel, whereby [according to the admission of
1443] he must be regarded as de jure Earl of Arundel. He obtained
possession, 26 May 1244, of his paternal estates in Salop on payment of
1,000. By the title, however, of Earl of Arundel he never appears to have
been known [either in his lifetime or afterwards], although he lived 24 years
after the acquisition of that Castle and Honour. In an award dated Friday
after the Circumcision 1258, he is expressly called Dominus de Arundel [i.e.
Lord of the Honour of Arundel], and in the Fine Roll, 10 March 1261/2, he is
called Baro noster, while in his IPM he is described [merely] as Johannes
filius Alani, and the endorsement says that he held a quarter of the Earldom
of Arundel. He took part in the Welsh war in 1258, and, though sometimes
leagued with the Barons against the Crown, was, while fighting on the Royal
side, taken prisoner at the Battle of Lewes, in 1264, together with the King.
He married Maud, daughter of Theobald Le Botiller [2nd Baron Butler,
Ireland], by his 2nd wife, Rohese, daughter of Nicholas De Verdun, of Alton,
co. Stafford. He died 1267, before 10 November. Will dated October 1267.
His widow married Richard d'Amundeville, and died 27 November 1283. Source
CP 1:239-40"
344. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, ca 1164-cites loosely CP, vol. i.,article on "Arundel"for entire line's post. From: Alan B. Wilson Subject: Re: William Fitz Alan ca. 1060 Date: 1997/03/20 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=v02120d00af5699c6bec3%40%5B136.152.71.59%5D.
345. Optimistic Dave (Utz@aol.com) soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, ca 1164 of Arundel, Sussex, England.
346. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart, Earls of moray.
347. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, March 1240-cites loosely Complete Peerage, vol. i.,article on "Arundel" -From: Alan B. Wilson Subject: Re: William Fitz Alan ca. 1060 Date: 1997/03/20 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=v02120d00af5699c6bec3%40%5B136.152.71.59%5D.
348. Mark S. Hagger, cited by Christopher Nash in SGM at URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl3993545549d&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=a05100300b8385f38ff3f%40%5B10.0.1.2%5D, "The Fortunes of a Norman Family: The Verduns in England, Ireland and Wales 1066-1316" (2001), John FITZALAN.
349. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, loosely cites Complete Peerage, vol. i.,article on "Arundel" for entire post- From: Alan B. Wilson Subject: Re: William Fitz Alan ca. 1060 Date: 1997/03/20 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=v02120d00af5699c6bec3%40%5B136.152.71.59%5D.
350. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:239-40. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"9. JOHN FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry, Salop, son and heir of
JOHN FITZ ALAN of the same, by his 1st wife, Isabel, 2nd sister and, in her
issue, coheir of Hugh, and daughter of William (D'AUBIGNY), Earls of Sussex,
&c, succeeded his father (whom his mother had predeceased) in 1240. To him,
by writ dated 27 November 1243, was awarded [in right of his deceased mother]
the Castle and Honour of Arundel, whereby [according to the admission of
1443] he must be regarded as de jure Earl of Arundel. He obtained
possession, 26 May 1244, of his paternal estates in Salop on payment of
1,000. By the title, however, of Earl of Arundel he never appears to have
been known [either in his lifetime or afterwards], although he lived 24 years
after the acquisition of that Castle and Honour. In an award dated Friday
after the Circumcision 1258, he is expressly called Dominus de Arundel [i.e.
Lord of the Honour of Arundel], and in the Fine Roll, 10 March 1261/2, he is
called Baro noster, while in his IPM he is described [merely] as Johannes
filius Alani, and the endorsement says that he held a quarter of the Earldom
of Arundel. He took part in the Welsh war in 1258, and, though sometimes
leagued with the Barons against the Crown, was, while fighting on the Royal
side, taken prisoner at the Battle of Lewes, in 1264, together with the King.
He married Maud, daughter of Theobald Le Botiller [2nd Baron Butler,
Ireland], by his 2nd wife, Rohese, daughter of Nicholas De Verdun, of Alton,
co. Stafford. He died 1267, before 10 November. Will dated October 1267.
His widow married Richard d'Amundeville, and died 27 November 1283. Source
CP 1:239-40" before 10 November 1267; Will dated October 1267.
351. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 1267-loosely cites CP, vol. i.,article on "Arundel" for entire post- From: Alan B. Wilson Subject: Re: William Fitz Alan ca. 1060 Date: 1997/03/20 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=v02120d00af5699c6bec3%40%5B136.152.71.59%5D.
352. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal23558 John FITZALAN.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
353. Mark S. Hagger, cited by Christopher Nash in SGM at URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl3993545549d&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=a05100300b8385f38ff3f%40%5B10.0.1.2%5D, "The Fortunes of a Norman Family: The Verduns in England, Ireland and Wales 1066-1316" (2001), Maud/Matilda DE VERDUN.
354. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Maud le Botiller in several posts.
355. Mark S. Hagger, cited by Christopher Nash in SGM at URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl3993545549d&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=a05100300b8385f38ff3f%40%5B10.0.1.2%5D, "The Fortunes of a Norman Family: The Verduns in England, Ireland and Wales 1066-1316" (2001), 1283/4.
356. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:239-40. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"9. JOHN FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry, Salop, son and heir of
JOHN FITZ ALAN of the same, by his 1st wife, Isabel, 2nd sister and, in her
issue, coheir of Hugh, and daughter of William (D'AUBIGNY), Earls of Sussex,
&c, succeeded his father (whom his mother had predeceased) in 1240. To him,
by writ dated 27 November 1243, was awarded [in right of his deceased mother]
the Castle and Honour of Arundel, whereby [according to the admission of
1443] he must be regarded as de jure Earl of Arundel. He obtained
possession, 26 May 1244, of his paternal estates in Salop on payment of
1,000. By the title, however, of Earl of Arundel he never appears to have
been known [either in his lifetime or afterwards], although he lived 24 years
after the acquisition of that Castle and Honour. In an award dated Friday
after the Circumcision 1258, he is expressly called Dominus de Arundel [i.e.
Lord of the Honour of Arundel], and in the Fine Roll, 10 March 1261/2, he is
called Baro noster, while in his IPM he is described [merely] as Johannes
filius Alani, and the endorsement says that he held a quarter of the Earldom
of Arundel. He took part in the Welsh war in 1258, and, though sometimes
leagued with the Barons against the Crown, was, while fighting on the Royal
side, taken prisoner at the Battle of Lewes, in 1264, together with the King.
He married Maud, daughter of Theobald Le Botiller [2nd Baron Butler,
Ireland], by his 2nd wife, Rohese, daughter of Nicholas De Verdun, of Alton,
co. Stafford. He died 1267, before 10 November. Will dated October 1267.
His widow married Richard d'Amundeville, and died 27 November 1283. Source
CP 1:239-40" 27 November 1283.
357. Mark S. Hagger, cited by Christopher Nash in SGM at URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl3993545549d&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=a05100300b8385f38ff3f%40%5B10.0.1.2%5D, "The Fortunes of a Norman Family: The Verduns in England, Ireland and Wales 1066-1316" (2001), by 1242.
358. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:239-40. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"9. JOHN FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry, Salop, son and heir of
JOHN FITZ ALAN of the same, by his 1st wife, Isabel, 2nd sister and, in her
issue, coheir of Hugh, and daughter of William (D'AUBIGNY), Earls of Sussex,
&c, succeeded his father (whom his mother had predeceased) in 1240. To him,
by writ dated 27 November 1243, was awarded [in right of his deceased mother]
the Castle and Honour of Arundel, whereby [according to the admission of
1443] he must be regarded as de jure Earl of Arundel. He obtained
possession, 26 May 1244, of his paternal estates in Salop on payment of
1,000. By the title, however, of Earl of Arundel he never appears to have
been known [either in his lifetime or afterwards], although he lived 24 years
after the acquisition of that Castle and Honour. In an award dated Friday
after the Circumcision 1258, he is expressly called Dominus de Arundel [i.e.
Lord of the Honour of Arundel], and in the Fine Roll, 10 March 1261/2, he is
called Baro noster, while in his IPM he is described [merely] as Johannes
filius Alani, and the endorsement says that he held a quarter of the Earldom
of Arundel. He took part in the Welsh war in 1258, and, though sometimes
leagued with the Barons against the Crown, was, while fighting on the Royal
side, taken prisoner at the Battle of Lewes, in 1264, together with the King.
He married Maud, daughter of Theobald Le Botiller [2nd Baron Butler,
Ireland], by his 2nd wife, Rohese, daughter of Nicholas De Verdun, of Alton,
co. Stafford. He died 1267, before 10 November. Will dated October 1267.
His widow married Richard d'Amundeville, and died 27 November 1283. Source
CP 1:239-40" married.
359. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Earl of Arundel From: Phil Moody RE: Repercussions of the Execution of William de Braose Date: 2001-10-31 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=william+de+Braose&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=MABBKIIDLFFPHHHMGNNIKEELCFAA.moodyprime%40prodigy.net.
360. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:240. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"10. JOHN FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the
admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 14 September
1246. He did homage for his estates 10 December 1267. He, also, though 22
years at his father's decease, was never known as Earl of Arundel, and it is
incredible that, if he had ever borne that title, as annexed to the Castle
and Honour, the fact would have been omitted in the inquisition which finds
him to have died seized [1272], 56 Henry III, of that Castle and Honour held
by the 4th part of a Barony. He married Isabel, daughter of Roger de
Mortimer, of Wigmore, by Maud, daughter and coheir of William de Briouze, of
Brecknock. He died 18 March 1271/2, and was buried in Haughmond Abbey,
Salop. His widow married, before 1273, Ralph d'Arderne (living 1283) and
married 3rdly, 2 September 1285, at Poling, Sussex, (privately) Robert de
Hastang, for which marriage, having omitted to obtain Royal license, she was
fined 1,000. He was living 1 April 1292 and she was living in 1300. Source
CP 1:240"
361. Thoroughly Sourced by Person at cite, WW-Person A data base of the higher nobility in Europe, http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/ww-person.html, 112900, via Roots-L.
362. Ibid. march 3 1271/72.
363. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:240. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"10. JOHN FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the
admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 14 September
1246. He did homage for his estates 10 December 1267. He, also, though 22
years at his father's decease, was never known as Earl of Arundel, and it is
incredible that, if he had ever borne that title, as annexed to the Castle
and Honour, the fact would have been omitted in the inquisition which finds
him to have died seized [1272], 56 Henry III, of that Castle and Honour held
by the 4th part of a Barony. He married Isabel, daughter of Roger de
Mortimer, of Wigmore, by Maud, daughter and coheir of William de Briouze, of
Brecknock. He died 18 March 1271/2, and was buried in Haughmond Abbey,
Salop. His widow married, before 1273, Ralph d'Arderne (living 1283) and
married 3rdly, 2 September 1285, at Poling, Sussex, (privately) Robert de
Hastang, for which marriage, having omitted to obtain Royal license, she was
fined 1,000. He was living 1 April 1292 and she was living in 1300. Source
CP 1:240" 18 March 1271/2.
364. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, John FitzAlan III of Arundel SGM post from Optimistic Dave (Utz).
365. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, John, Earl Of Arundel FITZALAN Royal05736.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
366. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:240. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"10. JOHN FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the
admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 14 September
1246. He did homage for his estates 10 December 1267. He, also, though 22
years at his father's decease, was never known as Earl of Arundel, and it is
incredible that, if he had ever borne that title, as annexed to the Castle
and Honour, the fact would have been omitted in the inquisition which finds
him to have died seized [1272], 56 Henry III, of that Castle and Honour held
by the 4th part of a Barony. He married Isabel, daughter of Roger de
Mortimer, of Wigmore, by Maud, daughter and coheir of William de Briouze, of
Brecknock. He died 18 March 1271/2, and was buried in Haughmond Abbey,
Salop. His widow married, before 1273, Ralph d'Arderne (living 1283) and
married 3rdly, 2 September 1285, at Poling, Sussex, (privately) Robert de
Hastang, for which marriage, having omitted to obtain Royal license, she was
fined 1,000. He was living 1 April 1292 and she was living in 1300. Source
CP 1:240" Isabel, daughter of Roger de Mortimer, of Wigmore, by Maud, daughter and coheir of William de Briouze of Brecknock.
367. Ibid. living 1300.
368. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:240. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"11. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the
admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 3 February
1266/7, and was only 5 years old at his father's death. He had seizin of his
lands 8 December 1287. According to Glover he was created Earl of Sussex in
1289, when he was knighted and "received the sword of the county of Sussex"
from Edward I, but it seems more probable that this creation was as Earl of
Arundel. At all events no more is heard of the former title [Sussex] as
connected with this family, but only of the title of Arundel. On 12 February
1290/1 there is a grant to him as Richard Arundel, Earl of Arundel. In
October 1292 he was summoned by a writ directed to the Earl of Arundel, and
was summoned to Parliament 24 June 1295, by a writ directed Ricardo filio
Alani Comiti Arundell, ranking him as junior to all the other Earls. He
fought in the Welsh wars 1288, in Gascony 1295-7, and in the Scottish wars
1298-1300, being present at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300. He signed the
Barons' letter to the Pope, 12 February 1300/1. He married, before 1285,
Alasia, daughter of Tommaso I, Marquis of Saluzzo in Piedmont [1244-99], by
Luisa, daughter of Giorgio, Marquis of Ceva. She died 25 September 1292, and
was buried at Todingham Priory. He died 9 March 1301/2, in his 36th year,
and was buried with his ancestors. Source CP 1:240"
369. Ibid. 3 Feb 1266/7.
370. Thoroughly Sourced by Person at cite, WW-Person A data base of the higher nobility in Europe, http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/ww-person.html, 112900, via Roots-L, 3 Feb 1266.
371. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Richard, Earl Of Arundale FITZALAN.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
372. Thoroughly Sourced by Person at cite, WW-Person A data base of the higher nobility in Europe, http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/ww-person.html, 112900, via Roots-L, 7th Earl Of Arundel.
373. Ibid. Alice Of Saluzzo.
374. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). I:24 cited 1/26/99 at 1 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Saluzzo&hl=en&rnum=5&selm=3.0.1.32.19990126164535.00702e70%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
375. Genealogie medievali di Sardegna, L L Brook et al. (eds), (Publicazione della Deputazione di Storia Patria per la Sardegna, 1983), Richard Borthwick (rgbor@cyllene.uwa.edu.au) at soc.genealogy.medieval on 1/26/99, p 109 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Saluzzo&hl=en&rnum=5&selm=3.0.1.32.19990126164535.00702e70%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
376. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, see narrative for sources.
377. Ibid. see bride's narrative for source details.
378. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:240. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"11. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry and [according to the
admission of 1443], Earl of Arundel, only son and heir, born 3 February
1266/7, and was only 5 years old at his father's death. He had seizin of his
lands 8 December 1287. According to Glover he was created Earl of Sussex in
1289, when he was knighted and "received the sword of the county of Sussex"
from Edward I, but it seems more probable that this creation was as Earl of
Arundel. At all events no more is heard of the former title [Sussex] as
connected with this family, but only of the title of Arundel. On 12 February
1290/1 there is a grant to him as Richard Arundel, Earl of Arundel. In
October 1292 he was summoned by a writ directed to the Earl of Arundel, and
was summoned to Parliament 24 June 1295, by a writ directed Ricardo filio
Alani Comiti Arundell, ranking him as junior to all the other Earls. He
fought in the Welsh wars 1288, in Gascony 1295-7, and in the Scottish wars
1298-1300, being present at the siege of Carlaverock in 1300. He signed the
Barons' letter to the Pope, 12 February 1300/1. He married, before 1285,
Alasia, daughter of Tommaso I, Marquis of Saluzzo in Piedmont [1244-99], by
Luisa, daughter of Giorgio, Marquis of Ceva. She died 25 September 1292, and
was buried at Todingham Priory. He died 9 March 1301/2, in his 36th year,
and was buried with his ancestors. Source CP 1:240" before 1285.
379. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:241-2. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"12. EDMUND FITZ ALAN, Earl of Arundel, son and heir, born 1 May 1285, in the
Castle of Marlborough. His wardship was obtained by John, Earl of Surrey and
Sussex, whose granddaughter he married. He was knighted, with Edward, the
King's son, and many others, 22 May 1306. On 9 November 1306 he was summoned
to Parliament as Earl of Arundel, and took part in the Scottish wars of that
year. On 25 February 1307/8 he officiated as Pincerna at the coronation of
Edward II. In 1316 he was Captain General north of the Trent. For a long
time he was in opposition to the King, and was violent against Piers
Gaveston, who had beaten him in a tournament. However in 1321 he changed
sides, and married his first son to a daughter of Hugh le Despenser, being
thereafter one of the few nobles who adhered to the King. In 1323 he was
Chief Justiciar of North and South Wales. Warden of the Welsh Marches 1325.
Having been captured in Shropshire by the Queen's party, he was, without
trial, beheaded at Hereford, 17 November 1326 in his 42nd year. He was
subsequently attainted, when his estates and honours became forfeited. His
widow [who, in her issue was, in 1347, sole heir of her brother John, Earl of
Surrey and Sussex, and consequently of the great family of Warenne] was
living 1330, but died before 23 May 1338. Source CP 1:241-2"
380. Thoroughly Sourced by Person at cite, WW-Person A data base of the higher nobility in Europe, http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/ww-person.html, 112900, via Roots-L, Source Calls Him The 8th.
381. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, 1305, Arundel, Sussex, England Unsourced entry http://groups.google.com/groups?q=John,+Earl+Of+Warren+%26+Surrey+8+DE+WARENNE&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=000501be0c4f%24508696e0%24da676420%40mallory.
382. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1 :243. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"14. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, called "Copped Hat" son and heir of Edmund [12th Earl
of Arundel], born about 1313. In 1330-31 he was fully restored in blood and
honours and in December of that year obtained restitution of the Castle and
Honour of Arundel from the widow of John, Earl of Kent, becoming Earl of
Arundel; he took a distinguished part in the wars with France; Admiral of the
West 1340-41 and 1347-47; commanded the second division at the Battle of
Crécy, and was at the fall of Calais in 1347; on June 30, 1347 he succeeded
to the vast estates of the family of Warenne, by the death, s.p.legit of his
mother's brother, John, Earl of Surrey and Sussex. By fine levied 1349-50,
he settled the Castle, town, and manor of Arundel on himself and his [then]
wife Eleanor, for their joint lives, with remainder to the heirs male of his
body by his said wife. On the death of Joan, the widow of his said uncle,
John, Earl of Surrey, in 1361, but not before, he assumed the title of Earl
of Surrey, and in 1366 settled the Warenne estates on his issue. He married,
1stly, 9 February 1320/1, in the King's Chapel at Havering-atte-Bower [he
about 7, she about 8], isabel, daughter and co-heir of Sir Hugh le Despenser the younger, [Lord le Despenser]*, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester. Obtained 4 December 1344, a Papal mandate for the
annulment of his marriage to Isabel le Despenser, on the ground of his
minority and of his never willingly consented to the match. he married
2ndly, 5 February 1344/5, at Ditton, [a lady with whom he had previously
cohabited], Eleanor, widow of John de Beaumont [2nd Lord Beaumont], daughter
of Henry, Earl of Lancaster, by Maud, daughter and heir of Sir Patrick de
Chawices or Chaworth. She, who was 1st cousin to his 1st wife, and 2nd
cousin once removed to the Earl, died 11 January 1372, at Arundel, and was
buried at Lewes. He died 24 January 1375/6, also at Arundel, in his 70th
year, and was also buried at Lewes. Source CP 1:24393

*The post actually states ... [he about 7, she about 8], Isabel, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester..... I wrote to Utz [always optimistic Dave] , and he explained that the original reads as above but for some reason it did not get through that way in SGM. The post then reads for this line in error, and I have corrected it based on the following letter recieved jan 8 2002 "Hi--no, you are correct, the text should have read:...."

383. SGM post with general citation
From: Alan LaVergne (yoken@IBM.NET)
Subject: Re: Eleanor PLANTAGENET or DE BOHUN?
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1997/04/05
URL
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3346B77F.53B2%40ibm.net

Text Reads
"These two ladies married different Richards:

Richard Fitzalan, 3rd Earl of Arundel, born ca 1307,
died 24 jan 1376. Leader of English expeditions in
Scotland and France.

The 3rd Earl married first (ca 1321, div. 1345) Isabel
Despenser, daughter of Hugh Despenser the Younger
(who was executed in 1326), with issue:
Philippa (married Richard Sergeaux, Cornwall)
Isabel (or Mary), married John Strange (d 1361),
4th Baron, Blackmere.


The 3rd Earl married 2ndly 1346 Eleanor Plantagenet
(1318-1372), daughter of Henry, 3rd Earl Lancaster.
with issue:
Richard, 4th Earl (see below).
John, ancestor of the 6th Earl (see below).
Thomas (d 19 feb 1413), archbishop of Canterbury and
Lord Chancellor of England. He led persecution of
the Lollards.
Joan, married Humphrey de Bohun (1340-1372), 8th Earl
Hereford. (Mary, daughter of Joan and Humphrey,
married King Henry IV.)
Alice, married 1366 Thomas Holand (b. 1350,
d. 25 Apr 1397), 2nd Earl Kent, and had issue.
Eleanor, married Robert de Ufford.

Richard Fitzalan, 4th Earl, one of the five Lords Appellant
and opponent of Richard II, executed in Richard's coup
in 1397.

The 4th Earl married first, in 1359 (when he could not have
been more than 13) Elizabeth de Bohun, sister of the 8th
Earl Hereford mentioned above, with issue:
Thomas (d 1415), 5th Earl (married Beatrix of Portugal).
When the 5th Earl died without issue, the title passed
to his relative the 6th Earl (see below).
Elizabeth m 1st William Montagu (killed in a joust
in 1383); m 2nd Thomas Mowbray (d 1399), 1st Duke of
Norfolk, another of the Lords Appellant, with 4 issue;
m 3rd Robert Goushill (d ca 1403) of Hoveringham,
with 2 issue.
Joan, married William Beauchamp, Lord Bergavenny,
with issue.
Margaret, married Rowland Henthall, of Hampton Court
Alice, married ca 1390 John Charlton, 4th Baron.
She was apparently the mother by Henry Beaufort
(1375-1447), bishop of Winchester, of Jane
(born about 1400), who married Edward Stradling,
this line leading to Abigail Adams and FDR.

The 4th Earl married 2ndly, after 1391, Philippa Mortimer
(d 1401)

John Fitzalan (d 1379), marshal of England in 1377, younger
son of the 3rd Earl, married before 1365, Eleanor Lady
Maltravers (d 1405). Their son John Fitzalan (1365-1391)
married 1385 Elizabeth Despenser (daughter of Edward,
5th Baron) with issue:
John Fitzalan (1385-1421), 6th Earl of Arundel.
Thomas, of Beechwood/Betchworth. Thomas's daughter Eleanor
was mother of Sir George Browne (1440-1483) of Betchworth
mentioned in the Tewkesbury Roll, and her second husband
Thomas Vaughan (1425-1483), Tretower, is also mentioned
in the Roll.
Margaret (d 1439), married 1394 William de Ros (d 1414),
7th Baron.

** Source: mostly Burke's Peerage.
** Also, "Battle of Tewkesbury, A Roll of Arms"
by Geoffrey Wheeler (1971).
** The Adams/FDR datum presumably from the Roberts book.

Alan LaVergne
Palo Alto CA"
384. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, unsourced entry-http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Edmund+FITZALAN&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=8926f258.3564cff5%40aol.com.
385. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, anullment, see narrative, from Leo Van de Pas in SGM.
386. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1 :243. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"14. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, called "Copped Hat" son and heir of Edmund [12th Earl
of Arundel], born about 1313. In 1330-31 he was fully restored in blood and
honours and in December of that year obtained restitution of the Castle and
Honour of Arundel from the widow of John, Earl of Kent, becoming Earl of
Arundel; he took a distinguished part in the wars with France; Admiral of the
West 1340-41 and 1347-47; commanded the second division at the Battle of
Crécy, and was at the fall of Calais in 1347; on June 30, 1347 he succeeded
to the vast estates of the family of Warenne, by the death, s.p.legit of his
mother's brother, John, Earl of Surrey and Sussex. By fine levied 1349-50,
he settled the Castle, town, and manor of Arundel on himself and his [then]
wife Eleanor, for their joint lives, with remainder to the heirs male of his
body by his said wife. On the death of Joan, the widow of his said uncle,
John, Earl of Surrey, in 1361, but not before, he assumed the title of Earl
of Surrey, and in 1366 settled the Warenne estates on his issue. He married,
1stly, 9 February 1320/1, in the King's Chapel at Havering-atte-Bower [he
about 7, she about 8], isabel, daughter and co-heir of Sir Hugh le Despenser the younger, [Lord le Despenser]*, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester. Obtained 4 December 1344, a Papal mandate for the
annulment of his marriage to Isabel le Despenser, on the ground of his
minority and of his never willingly consented to the match. he married
2ndly, 5 February 1344/5, at Ditton, [a lady with whom he had previously
cohabited], Eleanor, widow of John de Beaumont [2nd Lord Beaumont], daughter
of Henry, Earl of Lancaster, by Maud, daughter and heir of Sir Patrick de
Chawices or Chaworth. She, who was 1st cousin to his 1st wife, and 2nd
cousin once removed to the Earl, died 11 January 1372, at Arundel, and was
buried at Lewes. He died 24 January 1375/6, also at Arundel, in his 70th
year, and was also buried at Lewes. Source CP 1:24393

*The post actually states ... [he about 7, she about 8], Isabel, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester..... I wrote to Utz [always optimistic Dave] , and he explained that the original reads as above but for some reason it did not get through that way in SGM. The post then reads for this line in error, and I have corrected it based on the following letter recieved jan 8 2002 "Hi--no, you are correct, the text should have read:...."

387. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, cites W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194-From: Gordon Fisher Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net.
388. Ibid. John, E of L, De Lcites W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194-From: Gordon Fisher Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net.
389. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). CP VII:676 as cited in SGm From: UTZ@aol.com (Subject: Re: De Lacy Family - Confusing TWO Walters Date: 2001-01-09 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=15.e381017.278cc913%40aol.com.
390. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1240.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
391. Michael Altschul, *A Baronial Family in Medieval England: The
Clares, 1217-1314*, Baltimore MD (Johns Hopkins Press) 1965. p 34-36 (and page 92 where noted in detail)
Cited by Gordon Fisher in SGM
Subject: de Lacy relatives??? Date: 1998/02/16 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3.0.1.16.19980216214929.1077511e%40pop.shentel.net 1240 in reference to his daughter Maud.
392. Found in and not apparantly separated from the work of Cole, Robert Franklin, " The Capt. A.B. Cole genealogy" Miami, Fla.: Photo-offset print. by Sunshine Press, 1964, 95 pgs. at GFFHlib
Appendix, chapter 24? 27? Cole Muller Muller? hard to read chapter number and name. I can not tell WHO wrote this work, an extensive Cole geneology found in and around the page 2520-2527 at the source. It is at GFFHlib 22 Jul 1240.
393. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Maude de Lacy Royal10435.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
394. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). CP VI, p 498 See narrative.
395. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, Weis, pp 117 & 212 see narrative.
396. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:235-6. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (Always Optimistic Dave)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 4-8
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/10
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a.6a13f316.25abb846%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"WILLIAM (D'AUBIGNY), EARL OF SUSSEX, son and heir, in 1176/7, was
confirmed in that dignity, but the Castle and Honour of Arundel having, in
accordance with the policy of Henry II, been retained by the Crown, on the
death of the last holder he did not obtain restoration of them till Richard I
restored them to him 27 June 1190, when (according to the admission of I433]
he became EARL OF ARUNDEL. He was, however, styled Earl of Arundel before he
received possession of the Castle and Honour, namely, on 18 September 1189,
and on 26 November of the same year he witnessed King Richard's Charter as
"Will. Earl of Arundel." He received also at the same time, the third penny
of the pleas of Sussex in the precise words of the grant made to his father.
In 1191 he was made Custos of Windsor Castle, and in 1194 one of the
Receivers of the money raised for the King's ransom. He married Maud, widow
of Roger (DE CLARE), EARL OF HERTFORD (who had died 1173), daughter and heir
of James DE ST. HILAIRE Du HARCOUET, by Aveline, his wife. He died 24
December 1193, and was buried at Wymondham Priory. Source CP 1:235-6"
397. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115;married Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.
398. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1:235-6. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing Several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (Always Optimistic Dave)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 4-8
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/10
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6a.6a13f316.25abb846%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"WILLIAM (D'AUBIGNY), EARL OF SUSSEX, son and heir, in 1176/7, was
confirmed in that dignity, but the Castle and Honour of Arundel having, in
accordance with the policy of Henry II, been retained by the Crown, on the
death of the last holder he did not obtain restoration of them till Richard I
restored them to him 27 June 1190, when (according to the admission of I433]
he became EARL OF ARUNDEL. He was, however, styled Earl of Arundel before he
received possession of the Castle and Honour, namely, on 18 September 1189,
and on 26 November of the same year he witnessed King Richard's Charter as
"Will. Earl of Arundel." He received also at the same time, the third penny
of the pleas of Sussex in the precise words of the grant made to his father.
In 1191 he was made Custos of Windsor Castle, and in 1194 one of the
Receivers of the money raised for the King's ransom. He married Maud, widow
of Roger (DE CLARE), EARL OF HERTFORD (who had died 1173), daughter and heir
of James DE ST. HILAIRE Du HARCOUET, by Aveline, his wife. He died 24
December 1193, and was buried at Wymondham Priory. Source CP 1:235-6" 1173.
399. Ibid. Maud.
400. SGM post From: Suzanne Doig
[See Below, Ahnentafel for Donald, 8th Earl of Mar]
Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/22
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22beatrix+of+Angus%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=5

Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)

Complete Ahnentafel as provided by Suzanne as cited above reads:
"1. Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland; married Isabel
STEWART of Bonkyl (died between 15 Jun 1347 and 15 Jan 1348). Donald
died 12 Aug 1332, Battle of Dupplin Moor, Scotland.


Parents

2. Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar; married about 1292, Christian BRUCE.
Gratney died before Sep 1305.

3. Christian BRUCE; married (1) about 1292, Gratney, 7th Earl of
Mar; married (2) Sir Christopher SETON (ex. 1306); married (3) Sir
Andrew MURRAY of Bothwell (born 1298, died 1338). Christian died
about 1356/1357.


Grand Parents

4. Donald, 6th Earl of Mar; married Helen of Wales. Donald died
after 25 Jul 1297.

5. Helen fercf Llywelyn of Wales; born say 1234; married (1)
Malcolm MacDUFF, 7th Earl of Fife (born before 1228, died 1266);
married (2) Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.

6. Robert VII BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick; born Jul
1243; married (1) 1271, in Turnberry Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland,
Marjory, Countess of Carrick, married (2) after 1292, Alianora (died
Mar/Oct 1330). Robert died before 4 Apr 1304, England/Palestine,
buried Abbey of Holm Cultram, Scotland.

7. Marjory, Countess of Carrick; born 1245; married (1) before 4
Oct 1266, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270); married (2) Robert VII
BRUCE, Lord of Annandale, Earl of Carrick. Marjory died before 27 Oct
1292.


Great Grand Parents

8. William, 5th Earl of Mar; married (1) Elizabeth COMYN; married
(2) Muriel of Strathearn (born about 1244/1245, died between 16 May
and 12 Nov 1291). William died mid 1281.

9. Elizabeth COMYN; married William, 5th Earl of Mar. Elizabeth
died 1267.

?10. Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of Gwynedd 1194-1240; born 1173;
?married (1) Tangwystyl (died 11 Dec 1282?); married (2) 1206, Joan
(born about 1191, died 2 Feb 1237). Llywelyn died 11 Apr 1240, buried
Conwy, Wales.
[Note: Helen of Wales is only SAID TO BE an illegitimate daughter of
Llywelyn - the connection is not proven.]

12. Robert VI 'the Competitor' BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; born
1210; married (1) May 1240, Isabel DE CLARE; married (2) Christiana DE
IREBY (died about 1305). Robert died 1295, Lochmaben Castle,
Dumfries, Scotland.

13. Isabel DE CLARE; born 8 Nov 1226, married Robert VI BRUCE,
Lord of Annandale. Isabel died after 10 Jul 1254.

14. Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick; married Margaret STEWART. Neil
died 1256.

15. Margaret STEWART; married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick.


Great Great Grand Parents

16. Duncan, 4th Earl of Mar; died before 7 Feb 1244, buried
Aberdeen Cathedral, Scotland.

18. William COMYN, Justiciary of Scotland; married (1) Sarah fitz
Robert fitz Hugh; married (2) about 1210, Marjorie, Countess of
Buchan.

19. Marjorie, Countess of Buchan; married about 1210, William
COMYN.

20. Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain Gwynedd; married Margred ferch
Madog. Iorwerth died about 1174, Pennant Mehangell, Wales.

21. Margred ferch Madog; married Iorwerth Drwyndwn ab Owain
Gwynedd.

24. Robert V BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married (1) Beatrice de
TEYDEN; married (2) Isabella of Huntingdon. Robert died 1245.

25. Isabella of Huntingdon; married Robert V BRUCE. Isabella died
about 1251, buried Saltre Abbey, Gloucestershire, England.

26. Gilbert DE CLARE, 4th Earl of Hertford, Clare & Gloucester;
born 1180/1182, Hertford, Hertfordshire, England; married 9 Oct 1217,
in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England, Isabella MARSHAL.
Gilbert died 25 Oct 1230, Penros, Brittany, buried Tewkesbury Abbey,
Gloucestershire, England.

27. Isabella MARSHAL; born 9 Oct 1200, Pembroke Castle, Wales;
married (1) Gilbert DE CLARE; married (2) 30 Mar 1231, in Fawley
Church, Buckinghamshire, England, Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King of
the Romans (born 5 Jan 1209, died 2 Apr 1272). Isabella died 17 Jan
1240, Berkhamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England, buried Beaulieu
Abbey, Hampshire, England.

28. Duncan, 1st Earl of Carrick; born after 1163/about 1170?;
?married Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER. Duncan died 13 Jun 1250.

29. Aveline fitz Alan FitzWALTER; married Duncan, 1st Earl of
Carrick.

30. Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High Steward of Scotland; married
Beatrix of Angus. Walter died 1246.

31. Beatrix of Angus; married Walter FitzAlan STEWART, 3rd High
Steward of Scotland.


3rd Great Grand Parents

32. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar; married (1) ?; married
(2) Agnes, Countess of Mar. Morgund died before 30 Mar 1183, buried
Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

33. Agnes, Countess of Mar; married Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl
of Mar. Agnes buried Priory of St Andrews, Fife, Scotland.

36. Richard COMYN; married Hextilda. Richard died about 1179.

37. Hextilda; married (1) Richard COMYN; married (2) Malcolm, Earl
of Atholl (died 1186/Aug 1198).

38. Fergus, Earl of Buchan.

40. Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd 1137-1169; married (1) Pyvog,
married (2) Gwladus ferch Llywarch. Owain died Dec 1169, buried
Bangor, Wales.

41. Gwladus ferch Llywarch; married Owain Gwynedd, King of Gwynedd
1137-1169.

42. Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of Powys; married Susanna ferch
Gruffydd. Madog died 1160, Winchester, England, buried Meifod yn
Powys, Wales.

?43. Susanna ferch Gruffydd; married Madog ap Maredudd, Prince of
Powys.
[While Susanna was Madog's wife, there is no proof that she was
Margred's mother.]

48. William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale; married Christine.
William died 1215.

49. Christine; married (1) William DE BRUCE, Lord of Annandale;
married (2) before 4 Dec 1214, Patrick, 4th Earl of Dunbar (born
1152, died 31 Dec 1232).

50. David, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1143/1152; married 26 Aug 1190, Matilda of Chester. David died 17 Jun
1219, Yardley, Northamptonshire, England, buried Sawtrey Abbey,
Huntingdonshire, England.

51. Matilda of Chester; born 1171; married 26 Aug 1190, David,
Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland. Matilda died 6 Jan 1233.

52. Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford, 6th Earl of Clare;
born about 1153; married about 1180 (divorced before 1200) Amicia,
Countess of Gloucester. Richard died 1217 OR 30 Dec 1218.

53. Amicia, Countess of Gloucester; born 1160; married about 1180
(divorced before 1200) Richard DE CLARE, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Amicia
died 1 Jan 1225.

54. William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke; born about 1146/1147;
married 1189, in London, England, Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil.
William died 14 May 1219, Caversham, England, buried Temple Church,
London, England.

55. Isabel DE CLARE, Countess Strigoil; born about 1174; married
1189, in London, England, William MARSHAL, 4th Earl of Pembroke.
Isabel died 1220, Pembroke, Wales, buried Tintern Abbey, Wales.

56. Gilbert of Galloway; born about 1126, Carrick, Ayrshire,
Scotland; died 1 Jan 1185.

58. Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of Scotland; married (?1)
Alesta of Mar, married (?2) Eve, married (?3) Margaret of Galloway.
Alan died 1204.

?59. Alesta of Mar; married Alan fitz Walter, 2nd High Steward of
Scotland.
[The name of Alan's wife and the mother of his children is debated.]

60. Alan fitz Walter - see #58.

?61. Alesta of Mar - see #59.

62. Gilchrist, Earl of Angus; died 1207/1211.


4th Great Grand Parents

64. Gylocher.

74. Huctred of Tynedale; married Bethoc.

75. Bethoc; married Huctred of Tynedale.

80. Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of Gwynedd 1081-1137; born 1055,
Dublin, Ireland; married Angharad ferch Owain. Gruffydd died 1137,
buried Bangor Cathedral, Wales.

81. Angharad ferch Owain; married Gruffydd ap Cynan, King of
Gwynedd 1081-1137. Angharad died about 1162.

82. Llywarch ap Trahaern, Lord of Arwystli, Lord of Pembroke;
married Dyddgu ferch Iorwerth. Llywarch died 1128.

84. Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of Powys; married Hunydd ferch
Einudd. Maredudd died 1132.

85. Hunydd ferch Einudd; married Maredudd ap Bleddyn, Prince of
Powys.

86. Gruffydd ap Cynan - see #80.

87. Angharad ferch Owain - see #81.

96. Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale; married Euphemia.
Robert died 1194.

97. Euphemia; married Robert III DE BRUS, Lord of Annandale.

100. Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland; born about
1114/1115; married in 1139, Ada de WARENNE. Henry died 12 Jun 1152,
buried Kelso Abbey, Roxburghshire, Scotland.

101. Ada de WARENNE; married 1139, Henry, Earl of Huntingdon and
Northumberland. Ada died 1178.

102. Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester; born 1147, Cyfeiliog,
Powys, Wales; married 1169/1171, in Chester, England, Bertrade
D'EVREUX. Hugh died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England, buried
Chester, England.

103. Bertrade D'EVREUX; born about 1155, Normandy; married
1169/1171, in Chester, England, Hugh de Kevelioc, 6th Earl of Chester.
Bertrade died 12 July 1189, Evreux, France.

104. Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; born after 1115; married
Maud de ST HILAIRE. Roger died 1173.

105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of
Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.

106. William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester; born 23 Nov
1110/1112; married about 1150, Hawise de BEAUMONT. William died 23
Nov 1183, buried Keynsham Abbey, Somerset, England.

107. Hawise de BEAUMONT; born about 1134; married about 1150,
William fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester. Hawise died 24 Apr 1197.

108. John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal;
married (1) about 1130 (annulled 1144), ?Aline PIPARD; married (2)
after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales, Sibyl de SALISBURY. John died 1165.

109. Sibyl de SALISBURY; married after 1141, in Pembroke, Wales,
John fitz Gilbert MARSHAL, Lord of Marlborough, Marshal.

110. Richard 'Strongbow' fitz Gilbert DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke; born about 1130, Tunbridge, Kent, England; married 26 Aug
1171, in Reginald's Tower, Waterford, Ireland, Aoife MacMURROUGH.
Richard died about 20 Apr 1176, Dublin, Ireland, buried Christ Church
Cathedral, Dublin, Ireland.

111. Aoife MacMURROUGH married 26 Aug 1171, in Reginald's Tower,
Waterford, Ireland, Richard 'Strongbow' DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of
Pembroke. Aoife died after 1185.

112. Fergus of Galloway; married Elizabeth. Fergus died 12 May
1166.

113. Elizabeth; married Fergus of Galloway.

116. Walter fitz Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland; married
Eschina ?de LONDONIIS. Walter died 1177.

117. Eschina de LONDONIIS/Eochyna de MOLLE; married Walter fitz
Alan, 1st High Steward of Scotland.

118. Morgund mac Gylocher, 2nd Earl of Mar - see #32.

119. Agnes, Countess of Mar - see #33.

124. Gillebride, Earl of Angus; possibly married (1) - of Dunbar;
married (2) - of Caithness. Gillebride died about 1187.

125. - of Dunbar; possibly married Gillebride, Earl of Angus.

----
Suzanne" 105. Maud de ST HILAIRE; married (1) Roger DE CLARE, 2nd Earl of Hertford; married (2) after 1173, William d'AUBIGNY, 2nd Earl of Arundel (born before 1150, died 24 Dec 1193). Maud died 1195/1196.
401. Ibid. 1195/1196.
402. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal12993 Richard Earl Of Hertford de Clare.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
403. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). cited in SGM , URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19980729143031.006e8d80%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
404. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 23 nov 1258.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
405. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). 1258-cited in SGM , URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19980729143031.006e8d80%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
406. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, John Justiciar Of Ireland FITZGEOFFREY Royal23567.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
407. DNB: British Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, Leslie Stephen at alia, Vols 1 to 50 odd, 1st: 1885 to 1900. Articles written from 1890 odd to 1990 odd. (2nd edition now in course of preparation), cited in SGM post and in detail for specifics of publication at http://powys.org/.
408. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, From: Richard Borthwick (rgbor@CYLLENE.UWA.EDU.AU) Subject: Re: Hugh II de LACY (d 1186) (addendum) Date: 1997/04/11 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Hugh+de+Lacy&hl=en&rnum=7&selm=1.5.4.32.19970411143715.0069ea6c%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
409. From UTZ -SGM Post , sourced to CP 1 :243. [CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al)] . Detailed study of the Earldom of Arundel from the first who held the honor as provided by CP and encompassing several posts.
From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of Arundel 9-15
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/11
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e2.e2178389.25acc0ce%40aol.com&output=gplain
Text Reads in part:
"14. RICHARD FITZ ALAN, called "Copped Hat" son and heir of Edmund [12th Earl
of Arundel], born about 1313. In 1330-31 he was fully restored in blood and
honours and in December of that year obtained restitution of the Castle and
Honour of Arundel from the widow of John, Earl of Kent, becoming Earl of
Arundel; he took a distinguished part in the wars with France; Admiral of the
West 1340-41 and 1347-47; commanded the second division at the Battle of
Crécy, and was at the fall of Calais in 1347; on June 30, 1347 he succeeded
to the vast estates of the family of Warenne, by the death, s.p.legit of his
mother's brother, John, Earl of Surrey and Sussex. By fine levied 1349-50,
he settled the Castle, town, and manor of Arundel on himself and his [then]
wife Eleanor, for their joint lives, with remainder to the heirs male of his
body by his said wife. On the death of Joan, the widow of his said uncle,
John, Earl of Surrey, in 1361, but not before, he assumed the title of Earl
of Surrey, and in 1366 settled the Warenne estates on his issue. He married,
1stly, 9 February 1320/1, in the King's Chapel at Havering-atte-Bower [he
about 7, she about 8], isabel, daughter and co-heir of Sir Hugh le Despenser the younger, [Lord le Despenser]*, by Eleanor, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester. Obtained 4 December 1344, a Papal mandate for the
annulment of his marriage to Isabel le Despenser, on the ground of his
minority and of his never willingly consented to the match. he married
2ndly, 5 February 1344/5, at Ditton, [a lady with whom he had previously
cohabited], Eleanor, widow of John de Beaumont [2nd Lord Beaumont], daughter
of Henry, Earl of Lancaster, by Maud, daughter and heir of Sir Patrick de
Chawices or Chaworth. She, who was 1st cousin to his 1st wife, and 2nd
cousin once removed to the Earl, died 11 January 1372, at Arundel, and was
buried at Lewes. He died 24 January 1375/6, also at Arundel, in his 70th
year, and was also buried at Lewes. Source CP 1:24393

*The post actually states ... [he about 7, she about 8], Isabel, daughter and co-heir of Gilbert [de Clare], Earl of Gloucester..... I wrote to Utz [always optimistic Dave] , and he explained that the original reads as above but for some reason it did not get through that way in SGM. The post then reads for this line in error, and I have corrected it based on the following letter recieved jan 8 2002 "Hi--no, you are correct, the text should have read:...."

410. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, Hanging-see narrative for source details.
411. Ibid. 2nd Lord De Despenser http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Edmund+FITZALAN&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=8926f258.3564cff5%40aol.com.
412. Presidential Data base through Hull Univ, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/presidents, Sited by Brian Thompsett of Hull Univ Data Base, Funk&Wagnall's, Presidents00968.
413. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, cites [22, Her husband's article],[27, FitzJohn art, Vol V, p.433 seq],.
414. DNB: British Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, Leslie Stephen at alia, Vols 1 to 50 odd, 1st: 1885 to 1900. Articles written from 1890 odd to 1990 odd. (2nd edition now in course of preparation), cited in SGM post and in detail for specifics of publication at http://powys.org/, [22, Her husband's article] cited by Timpowys-Lybbe at http://powys.org.
415. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). [22, Her husband's article],[27, FitzJohn art, Vol V, p.433 seq],cited by Timpowys-Lybbe at http://powys.org.
416. Tim Powys-Lybbe, "A Tree of Powys-Lybbes (on line GedCom with midieval links )," Meticulously sourced through majority, author is a frequent contributor at SGM (http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval), http://powys.org/, sites [DNB] [CP].
417. DNB: British Dictionary of National Biography. Oxford University Press, Leslie Stephen at alia, Vols 1 to 50 odd, 1st: 1885 to 1900. Articles written from 1890 odd to 1990 odd. (2nd edition now in course of preparation), cited in SGM post and in detail for specifics of publication at http://powys.org/, [22, His article] cited by Tim Powys-Lybbe at http://powys.org/.
418. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). [27, Ulster article, Vol XII/2, p.168 seq] cited by Tim Powys-Lybbe at http://powys.org/.
419. ES =Europaische Stammtafeln ., publisher, V. Klostermann, (published in four distinct series, for this citation most people give ES then details on portion ES from which retrieved. Full citation ES found below as provided by John P Dulong, Phd (see URL link below accessed nov 2001), full citation for 3rd series is:Schwennicke, Detlev.  Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge. [European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series.], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven. 16 vols.  Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt , 1978-1995., The newest, forth, series is entitled Eurpäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge (started with vol. 17 and is now being published at Frankfurt am Main, Germany, by Verlag Vittorio Klostermann.)and Detlev Schwennicke is the sole author, full citation and discussion Europäische Stammtafeln by John P. DuLong, Ph.D. URL http://habitant.org/tools/esnotes.htm, ES III/1:159, sited in SGM , URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19980729143031.006e8d80%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
420. Ibid. Egidia/Gille ES III/1:159, sited in SGM , URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19980729143031.006e8d80%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
421. SGM post by Leo Van de Pas. [Stewart Saga - One] (first of five articles with sources provided in 5th and final article and included below ).
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - One
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=1&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213095210.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au

Sources provided by Leo Van de Pas at end of text
1)Burke's Extinct Peerage 1866, by Sir Bernard Burke
2)Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973
3)Burke's Peerage, 1938
4)Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937
5)The Complete Peerage
6)The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles. Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget
7)Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill, Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart

Post reads


"This may not be complete as I am still collecting
information. Some children may well be missing, but the
important members are here :

Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland,
He was granted the hereditary office, the greatest under the Scottish
Crown, of High or Great Steward of Scotland. With it came vast estates.
About 1163 he founded the Paisley Priory for Cluniac monks and was made a
lay brother of the Benedictine Order. In 1164 he repelled the invasion into
Renfrewshire by the Islesmen. He died in 1177.
He married Eochyna de Molle, daughter of Thomas de Molle
Child : Generation I.
-----------
Generation I.
1.Alan, 2nd High Steward of Scotland, died in 1204.
He appears to have joined the crusade of Richard
'Lionheart'. His wife, Eve, was probably a daughter of
Sweyn Thor'son, overlord of Crawford and ancestor of
the Ruthvens.
children : Generation II
-----------
Generation II.
1.Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland, died 1241.
HE WAS THE FIRST TO ASSUME THE NAME STEWART as their
family name. About 1219 he raised the Paisley Priory
to the rank of an Abbacy and, from 1230, was Justiciar
of Scotland north of Perth.
married Beatrice of Angus, daughter of Gilchrist, Earl of Angus
children Generation III
2.David
------------------
Generation III
1.Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
born 1214, died 1283
married Jean Macrory, daughter of James (Seumas)
Macrory, Lord of Bute
Children : Generation IV-1
2.John Stewart
killed in battle 1249 Damietta

3.Walter 'Bailloch', Earl of Menteith (jure uxoris)
died before 28 April 1296
married Mary of Menteith, daughter of Maurice 'the
Younger", Earl of Menteith
she died before 1286
Children : Generation IV-2

4.Elizabeth Stewart, died before 1250
married Maldouen, 3rd Earl of Lennox, son of Alwyn,
2nd Earl of Lennox, and Eve Menteith
died after 12 March 1250

5.Euphemia Stewart, died circa 1267
married before 1213
Patrick Dunbar, 5th or 6th Earl of Dunbar, son of Patrick,
4th or 5th Earl of Dunbar, and Ada of Scotland
died 1248 Marseille
In 1232 he succeeded his father as Earl of Dunbar. In 1235
he was in command of the army send against the Bastard
of Galloway, whom he subdued. He acted as guarantor of a
treaty with England in 1237 and again in 1244. He was in
charge of a Scottish army which left Scotland in November
1247 to join the French king Louis IX's crusade, but died
at Marseille between May and December 1248. His widow,
Euphemia Stewart, lived at Whittingham in East Lothian,
and died possibly about 1267.

6.Margaret Stewart
married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick, son of Duncan,
1st Earl of Carrick
died 1256
---------------
Generation IV-1
1.James Stewart, 5th High Stewart of Scotland
born circa 1243, died 16 July 1309
In 1286 he was co-Regent of Scotland as one of the six
guardians of the Realm and supported the claims of the
elder Robert Bruce to the throne. Opposing Edward I,
King of England's attempts to dominate Scotland, in 1295
ratified the treaty with France but, in 1297, was forced
to submit to the English king. The English sent him to
negotiate with Wallace but joined him instead, and fought
for him against the English at Stirling Bridge. He
supported King Robert The Bruce and attended the Parliament
at St.Andrews. He died on 16 July 1309.
married Gille/Jill de Burgh, of Ulster, daughter of Walter
de Burgh, Lord of Connaught, 1st Earl of Ulster, and
Aveline FitzJohn, of Shere
Children : Generation V-1

2.Sir John Stewart, of Bonkill, Berwickshire
born circa 1250, killed in battle 22 July 1298 Falkirk
Wallace praised his bravery above all men. He brought his
own Islesmen from Bute and his wife's Border archers to
aid the national cause, but was killed fighting for Sir
William Wallace at the battle of Falkirk.
married Margaret de Bonkill, daughter of Alexander de
Bonkill.
Children : Generation V-2

3.Elizabeth Stewart
married Sir William Douglas "Le Hardi", son of
Sir William Douglas
died as prisoner before 24 January 1296 in London

----------------------------------------------

Generation IV-2
1.Alexander, Earl of Menteith
died before 1306
married Maud
children : Generation V-3

2.Sir John de Menteith of Rusky
died circa 1323
married NN
children : generation V-4

To be continued :

Leo van de Pas " Gille/Jill de Burgh, of Ulster, daughter of Walter de Burgh, Lord of Connaught, 1st Earl of Ulster, and Aveline FitzJohn, of Shere.
422. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Jill du Bourg (Egidia de Burgo),dau of Walter, 1st Earl of Ulster . Stuart, Earls of Moray.
423. SGM post by Leo Van de Pas. [Stewart Saga - One] (first of five articles with sources provided in 5th and final article and included below ).
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - One
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=1&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213095210.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au

Sources provided by Leo Van de Pas at end of text
1)Burke's Extinct Peerage 1866, by Sir Bernard Burke
2)Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973
3)Burke's Peerage, 1938
4)Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937
5)The Complete Peerage
6)The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles. Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget
7)Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill, Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart

Post reads


"This may not be complete as I am still collecting
information. Some children may well be missing, but the
important members are here :

Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland,
He was granted the hereditary office, the greatest under the Scottish
Crown, of High or Great Steward of Scotland. With it came vast estates.
About 1163 he founded the Paisley Priory for Cluniac monks and was made a
lay brother of the Benedictine Order. In 1164 he repelled the invasion into
Renfrewshire by the Islesmen. He died in 1177.
He married Eochyna de Molle, daughter of Thomas de Molle
Child : Generation I.
-----------
Generation I.
1.Alan, 2nd High Steward of Scotland, died in 1204.
He appears to have joined the crusade of Richard
'Lionheart'. His wife, Eve, was probably a daughter of
Sweyn Thor'son, overlord of Crawford and ancestor of
the Ruthvens.
children : Generation II
-----------
Generation II.
1.Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland, died 1241.
HE WAS THE FIRST TO ASSUME THE NAME STEWART as their
family name. About 1219 he raised the Paisley Priory
to the rank of an Abbacy and, from 1230, was Justiciar
of Scotland north of Perth.
married Beatrice of Angus, daughter of Gilchrist, Earl of Angus
children Generation III
2.David
------------------
Generation III
1.Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
born 1214, died 1283
married Jean Macrory, daughter of James (Seumas)
Macrory, Lord of Bute
Children : Generation IV-1
2.John Stewart
killed in battle 1249 Damietta

3.Walter 'Bailloch', Earl of Menteith (jure uxoris)
died before 28 April 1296
married Mary of Menteith, daughter of Maurice 'the
Younger", Earl of Menteith
she died before 1286
Children : Generation IV-2

4.Elizabeth Stewart, died before 1250
married Maldouen, 3rd Earl of Lennox, son of Alwyn,
2nd Earl of Lennox, and Eve Menteith
died after 12 March 1250

5.Euphemia Stewart, died circa 1267
married before 1213
Patrick Dunbar, 5th or 6th Earl of Dunbar, son of Patrick,
4th or 5th Earl of Dunbar, and Ada of Scotland
died 1248 Marseille
In 1232 he succeeded his father as Earl of Dunbar. In 1235
he was in command of the army send against the Bastard
of Galloway, whom he subdued. He acted as guarantor of a
treaty with England in 1237 and again in 1244. He was in
charge of a Scottish army which left Scotland in November
1247 to join the French king Louis IX's crusade, but died
at Marseille between May and December 1248. His widow,
Euphemia Stewart, lived at Whittingham in East Lothian,
and died possibly about 1267.

6.Margaret Stewart
married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick, son of Duncan,
1st Earl of Carrick
died 1256
---------------
Generation IV-1
1.James Stewart, 5th High Stewart of Scotland
born circa 1243, died 16 July 1309
In 1286 he was co-Regent of Scotland as one of the six
guardians of the Realm and supported the claims of the
elder Robert Bruce to the throne. Opposing Edward I,
King of England's attempts to dominate Scotland, in 1295
ratified the treaty with France but, in 1297, was forced
to submit to the English king. The English sent him to
negotiate with Wallace but joined him instead, and fought
for him against the English at Stirling Bridge. He
supported King Robert The Bruce and attended the Parliament
at St.Andrews. He died on 16 July 1309.
married Gille/Jill de Burgh, of Ulster, daughter of Walter
de Burgh, Lord of Connaught, 1st Earl of Ulster, and
Aveline FitzJohn, of Shere
Children : Generation V-1

2.Sir John Stewart, of Bonkill, Berwickshire
born circa 1250, killed in battle 22 July 1298 Falkirk
Wallace praised his bravery above all men. He brought his
own Islesmen from Bute and his wife's Border archers to
aid the national cause, but was killed fighting for Sir
William Wallace at the battle of Falkirk.
married Margaret de Bonkill, daughter of Alexander de
Bonkill.
Children : Generation V-2

3.Elizabeth Stewart
married Sir William Douglas "Le Hardi", son of
Sir William Douglas
died as prisoner before 24 January 1296 in London

----------------------------------------------

Generation IV-2
1.Alexander, Earl of Menteith
died before 1306
married Maud
children : Generation V-3

2.Sir John de Menteith of Rusky
died circa 1323
married NN
children : generation V-4

To be continued :

Leo van de Pas "
424. Ibid. circa 1243.
425. "Monarchs of Scotland; Stuart Dynasty," http://www.royal-stuarts.org/monarchs.htm, 120900, 1243.
426. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart, Earls of Moray ca 1243.
427. Ibid. Stuart, Earls of Moray.
428. SGM post "Stewart Saga-Two" from Leo Van de Pas [Part of a series of five articles]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - TWO
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+two%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213102201.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1
Sources are given in last article of series [Stewart Saga-Five] and are provided from that post below the following text

Complete post reads
"Generation V-1
1.Andrew Stewart

2.Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
born 1292, died 9 April 1327
In 1314 he commanded the left wing of the Scottish
army at the battle of Bannockburn. In 1315 he married
Marjorie Bruce which made him the son-in-law of King
Robert Bruce. In 1316 he was Regent of Scotland during
the absence of Robert the Bruce who had gone to Ireland.
He defended Berwick against the English and, in 1322 with
Douglas, made a raid into Yorkshire and nearly kidnapped
King Edward II. He died on 9 April 1327.
married (1) 1315
Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert I The Bruce, King of
Scots, and Isabel of Mar
died 2 March 1316 Paisley, Renfrewshire
married (2)
Isabel Graham, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham, of
Dalkeith, and Mary of Strathearn
Children : Generation VI-1

3.Sir John Stewart
killed in battle 1318 Dundalk

4.Sir James Stewart, of Durrisdeer

5.Jill/Egidia Stewart
married Alexander Menzies, of Durisdeer

--------------------------------
Generation V-2
1.Isabel Stewart, Lady of Garlies
died after 15 July 1351
married Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray,
Regent of Scotland, son of Thomas Randolph, of
Strathdon, Chamberlain of Scotland, and NN Bruce
died 20 July 1332 Musselburgh

2.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Bonkil
died 1319
married NN
Children : Generation VI-2

3.Sir Alan Stewart, of Darnley, Crookston and Dreghorn
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-3

4.Sir Walter Stewart, of Pierston
married NN
Children : Generation VI-4

5.Sir James Stewart, of Pierston
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-5

6.Sir John Stewart, of Daldar
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill

----------------------------
Generation V-3
1.Alan, Earl of Menteith
died before 13 March 1309
married Marjory
Children : Generation VI-6
2.Peter

3.Murdoch, Earl of Menteith
died 12 August 1332 or 19 July 1333

-------------------
Generation V-4
1.Sir Walter Menteith, of Rusky and Kerse

2.Joan Menteith
married (1) circa 1323
Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Orkney and
Caithness, son of Malise, 6th Earl of Strathearn,
and Egidia/Agnes Comyn
born circa 1275-1280, died circa 1329
married (2)
John Campbell, Earl of Atholl
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married (3) contracted 11 July 1339
Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir John
Moray, of Drumsagard, and Mary of Strathearn
killed in battle 17 October 1346 Neville's Cross
married (4) contracted 9 November 1347
William, 5th Earl of Sutherland, son of Kenneth,
4th Earl of Sutherland, and Mary of Mar
died 27 February 1370/June 1371

----------------------------------------

To be continued
Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart"
429. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray 1292.
430. John Watt, viewed 092200, McCurdyL@Rootsweb, kiwi@whidbey.net, Dundunald, Ayrshire, Scotland.
431. SGM post "Stewart Saga-Two" from Leo Van de Pas [Part of a series of five articles]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - TWO
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+two%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213102201.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1
Sources are given in last article of series [Stewart Saga-Five] and are provided from that post below the following text

Complete post reads
"Generation V-1
1.Andrew Stewart

2.Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
born 1292, died 9 April 1327
In 1314 he commanded the left wing of the Scottish
army at the battle of Bannockburn. In 1315 he married
Marjorie Bruce which made him the son-in-law of King
Robert Bruce. In 1316 he was Regent of Scotland during
the absence of Robert the Bruce who had gone to Ireland.
He defended Berwick against the English and, in 1322 with
Douglas, made a raid into Yorkshire and nearly kidnapped
King Edward II. He died on 9 April 1327.
married (1) 1315
Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert I The Bruce, King of
Scots, and Isabel of Mar
died 2 March 1316 Paisley, Renfrewshire
married (2)
Isabel Graham, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham, of
Dalkeith, and Mary of Strathearn
Children : Generation VI-1

3.Sir John Stewart
killed in battle 1318 Dundalk

4.Sir James Stewart, of Durrisdeer

5.Jill/Egidia Stewart
married Alexander Menzies, of Durisdeer

--------------------------------
Generation V-2
1.Isabel Stewart, Lady of Garlies
died after 15 July 1351
married Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray,
Regent of Scotland, son of Thomas Randolph, of
Strathdon, Chamberlain of Scotland, and NN Bruce
died 20 July 1332 Musselburgh

2.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Bonkil
died 1319
married NN
Children : Generation VI-2

3.Sir Alan Stewart, of Darnley, Crookston and Dreghorn
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-3

4.Sir Walter Stewart, of Pierston
married NN
Children : Generation VI-4

5.Sir James Stewart, of Pierston
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-5

6.Sir John Stewart, of Daldar
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill

----------------------------
Generation V-3
1.Alan, Earl of Menteith
died before 13 March 1309
married Marjory
Children : Generation VI-6
2.Peter

3.Murdoch, Earl of Menteith
died 12 August 1332 or 19 July 1333

-------------------
Generation V-4
1.Sir Walter Menteith, of Rusky and Kerse

2.Joan Menteith
married (1) circa 1323
Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Orkney and
Caithness, son of Malise, 6th Earl of Strathearn,
and Egidia/Agnes Comyn
born circa 1275-1280, died circa 1329
married (2)
John Campbell, Earl of Atholl
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married (3) contracted 11 July 1339
Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir John
Moray, of Drumsagard, and Mary of Strathearn
killed in battle 17 October 1346 Neville's Cross
married (4) contracted 9 November 1347
William, 5th Earl of Sutherland, son of Kenneth,
4th Earl of Sutherland, and Mary of Mar
died 27 February 1370/June 1371

----------------------------------------

To be continued
Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" 1292.
432. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, date.
433. SGM post "Stewart Saga-Two" from Leo Van de Pas [Part of a series of five articles]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - TWO
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+two%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213102201.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1
Sources are given in last article of series [Stewart Saga-Five] and are provided from that post below the following text

Complete post reads
"Generation V-1
1.Andrew Stewart

2.Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
born 1292, died 9 April 1327
In 1314 he commanded the left wing of the Scottish
army at the battle of Bannockburn. In 1315 he married
Marjorie Bruce which made him the son-in-law of King
Robert Bruce. In 1316 he was Regent of Scotland during
the absence of Robert the Bruce who had gone to Ireland.
He defended Berwick against the English and, in 1322 with
Douglas, made a raid into Yorkshire and nearly kidnapped
King Edward II. He died on 9 April 1327.
married (1) 1315
Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert I The Bruce, King of
Scots, and Isabel of Mar
died 2 March 1316 Paisley, Renfrewshire
married (2)
Isabel Graham, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham, of
Dalkeith, and Mary of Strathearn
Children : Generation VI-1

3.Sir John Stewart
killed in battle 1318 Dundalk

4.Sir James Stewart, of Durrisdeer

5.Jill/Egidia Stewart
married Alexander Menzies, of Durisdeer

--------------------------------
Generation V-2
1.Isabel Stewart, Lady of Garlies
died after 15 July 1351
married Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray,
Regent of Scotland, son of Thomas Randolph, of
Strathdon, Chamberlain of Scotland, and NN Bruce
died 20 July 1332 Musselburgh

2.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Bonkil
died 1319
married NN
Children : Generation VI-2

3.Sir Alan Stewart, of Darnley, Crookston and Dreghorn
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-3

4.Sir Walter Stewart, of Pierston
married NN
Children : Generation VI-4

5.Sir James Stewart, of Pierston
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-5

6.Sir John Stewart, of Daldar
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill

----------------------------
Generation V-3
1.Alan, Earl of Menteith
died before 13 March 1309
married Marjory
Children : Generation VI-6
2.Peter

3.Murdoch, Earl of Menteith
died 12 August 1332 or 19 July 1333

-------------------
Generation V-4
1.Sir Walter Menteith, of Rusky and Kerse

2.Joan Menteith
married (1) circa 1323
Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Orkney and
Caithness, son of Malise, 6th Earl of Strathearn,
and Egidia/Agnes Comyn
born circa 1275-1280, died circa 1329
married (2)
John Campbell, Earl of Atholl
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married (3) contracted 11 July 1339
Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir John
Moray, of Drumsagard, and Mary of Strathearn
killed in battle 17 October 1346 Neville's Cross
married (4) contracted 9 November 1347
William, 5th Earl of Sutherland, son of Kenneth,
4th Earl of Sutherland, and Mary of Mar
died 27 February 1370/June 1371

----------------------------------------

To be continued
Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" date.
434. John Watt, viewed 092200, McCurdyL@Rootsweb, kiwi@whidbey.net, Bathgate Castle, Lothain, Scotland and date.
435. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1a MARJORIE, m 1315, Walter, 6th High Steward of Scotland, and d 2 March, 1315-16, soon after having had issue, a son, who eventually became ROBERT II.
436. SGM post "Stewart Saga-Two" from Leo Van de Pas [Part of a series of five articles]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - TWO
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+two%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213102201.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1
Sources are given in last article of series [Stewart Saga-Five] and are provided from that post below the following text

Complete post reads
"Generation V-1
1.Andrew Stewart

2.Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
born 1292, died 9 April 1327
In 1314 he commanded the left wing of the Scottish
army at the battle of Bannockburn. In 1315 he married
Marjorie Bruce which made him the son-in-law of King
Robert Bruce. In 1316 he was Regent of Scotland during
the absence of Robert the Bruce who had gone to Ireland.
He defended Berwick against the English and, in 1322 with
Douglas, made a raid into Yorkshire and nearly kidnapped
King Edward II. He died on 9 April 1327.
married (1) 1315
Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert I The Bruce, King of
Scots, and Isabel of Mar
died 2 March 1316 Paisley, Renfrewshire
married (2)
Isabel Graham, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham, of
Dalkeith, and Mary of Strathearn
Children : Generation VI-1

3.Sir John Stewart
killed in battle 1318 Dundalk

4.Sir James Stewart, of Durrisdeer

5.Jill/Egidia Stewart
married Alexander Menzies, of Durisdeer

--------------------------------
Generation V-2
1.Isabel Stewart, Lady of Garlies
died after 15 July 1351
married Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray,
Regent of Scotland, son of Thomas Randolph, of
Strathdon, Chamberlain of Scotland, and NN Bruce
died 20 July 1332 Musselburgh

2.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Bonkil
died 1319
married NN
Children : Generation VI-2

3.Sir Alan Stewart, of Darnley, Crookston and Dreghorn
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-3

4.Sir Walter Stewart, of Pierston
married NN
Children : Generation VI-4

5.Sir James Stewart, of Pierston
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-5

6.Sir John Stewart, of Daldar
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill

----------------------------
Generation V-3
1.Alan, Earl of Menteith
died before 13 March 1309
married Marjory
Children : Generation VI-6
2.Peter

3.Murdoch, Earl of Menteith
died 12 August 1332 or 19 July 1333

-------------------
Generation V-4
1.Sir Walter Menteith, of Rusky and Kerse

2.Joan Menteith
married (1) circa 1323
Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Orkney and
Caithness, son of Malise, 6th Earl of Strathearn,
and Egidia/Agnes Comyn
born circa 1275-1280, died circa 1329
married (2)
John Campbell, Earl of Atholl
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married (3) contracted 11 July 1339
Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir John
Moray, of Drumsagard, and Mary of Strathearn
killed in battle 17 October 1346 Neville's Cross
married (4) contracted 9 November 1347
William, 5th Earl of Sutherland, son of Kenneth,
4th Earl of Sutherland, and Mary of Mar
died 27 February 1370/June 1371

----------------------------------------

To be continued
Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" Marjorie Burce, daughter of Robert I The Bruce, King of Scots, and Isabel of Mar.
437. John Watt, viewed 092200, McCurdyL@Rootsweb, kiwi@whidbey.net.
438. SGM post "Stewart Saga-Two" from Leo Van de Pas [Part of a series of five articles]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - TWO
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+two%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213102201.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1
Sources are given in last article of series [Stewart Saga-Five] and are provided from that post below the following text

Complete post reads
"Generation V-1
1.Andrew Stewart

2.Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
born 1292, died 9 April 1327
In 1314 he commanded the left wing of the Scottish
army at the battle of Bannockburn. In 1315 he married
Marjorie Bruce which made him the son-in-law of King
Robert Bruce. In 1316 he was Regent of Scotland during
the absence of Robert the Bruce who had gone to Ireland.
He defended Berwick against the English and, in 1322 with
Douglas, made a raid into Yorkshire and nearly kidnapped
King Edward II. He died on 9 April 1327.
married (1) 1315
Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert I The Bruce, King of
Scots, and Isabel of Mar
died 2 March 1316 Paisley, Renfrewshire
married (2)
Isabel Graham, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham, of
Dalkeith, and Mary of Strathearn
Children : Generation VI-1

3.Sir John Stewart
killed in battle 1318 Dundalk

4.Sir James Stewart, of Durrisdeer

5.Jill/Egidia Stewart
married Alexander Menzies, of Durisdeer

--------------------------------
Generation V-2
1.Isabel Stewart, Lady of Garlies
died after 15 July 1351
married Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray,
Regent of Scotland, son of Thomas Randolph, of
Strathdon, Chamberlain of Scotland, and NN Bruce
died 20 July 1332 Musselburgh

2.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Bonkil
died 1319
married NN
Children : Generation VI-2

3.Sir Alan Stewart, of Darnley, Crookston and Dreghorn
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-3

4.Sir Walter Stewart, of Pierston
married NN
Children : Generation VI-4

5.Sir James Stewart, of Pierston
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-5

6.Sir John Stewart, of Daldar
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill

----------------------------
Generation V-3
1.Alan, Earl of Menteith
died before 13 March 1309
married Marjory
Children : Generation VI-6
2.Peter

3.Murdoch, Earl of Menteith
died 12 August 1332 or 19 July 1333

-------------------
Generation V-4
1.Sir Walter Menteith, of Rusky and Kerse

2.Joan Menteith
married (1) circa 1323
Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Orkney and
Caithness, son of Malise, 6th Earl of Strathearn,
and Egidia/Agnes Comyn
born circa 1275-1280, died circa 1329
married (2)
John Campbell, Earl of Atholl
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married (3) contracted 11 July 1339
Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir John
Moray, of Drumsagard, and Mary of Strathearn
killed in battle 17 October 1346 Neville's Cross
married (4) contracted 9 November 1347
William, 5th Earl of Sutherland, son of Kenneth,
4th Earl of Sutherland, and Mary of Mar
died 27 February 1370/June 1371

----------------------------------------

To be continued
Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" Paisley, Renfrewshire 2 Mar 1316.
439. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1316 Stuart Earls of moray.
440. SGM post "Stewart Saga-Two" from Leo Van de Pas [Part of a series of five articles]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - TWO
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+two%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213102201.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1
Sources are given in last article of series [Stewart Saga-Five] and are provided from that post below the following text

Complete post reads
"Generation V-1
1.Andrew Stewart

2.Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
born 1292, died 9 April 1327
In 1314 he commanded the left wing of the Scottish
army at the battle of Bannockburn. In 1315 he married
Marjorie Bruce which made him the son-in-law of King
Robert Bruce. In 1316 he was Regent of Scotland during
the absence of Robert the Bruce who had gone to Ireland.
He defended Berwick against the English and, in 1322 with
Douglas, made a raid into Yorkshire and nearly kidnapped
King Edward II. He died on 9 April 1327.
married (1) 1315
Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert I The Bruce, King of
Scots, and Isabel of Mar
died 2 March 1316 Paisley, Renfrewshire
married (2)
Isabel Graham, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham, of
Dalkeith, and Mary of Strathearn
Children : Generation VI-1

3.Sir John Stewart
killed in battle 1318 Dundalk

4.Sir James Stewart, of Durrisdeer

5.Jill/Egidia Stewart
married Alexander Menzies, of Durisdeer

--------------------------------
Generation V-2
1.Isabel Stewart, Lady of Garlies
died after 15 July 1351
married Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray,
Regent of Scotland, son of Thomas Randolph, of
Strathdon, Chamberlain of Scotland, and NN Bruce
died 20 July 1332 Musselburgh

2.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Bonkil
died 1319
married NN
Children : Generation VI-2

3.Sir Alan Stewart, of Darnley, Crookston and Dreghorn
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-3

4.Sir Walter Stewart, of Pierston
married NN
Children : Generation VI-4

5.Sir James Stewart, of Pierston
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-5

6.Sir John Stewart, of Daldar
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill

----------------------------
Generation V-3
1.Alan, Earl of Menteith
died before 13 March 1309
married Marjory
Children : Generation VI-6
2.Peter

3.Murdoch, Earl of Menteith
died 12 August 1332 or 19 July 1333

-------------------
Generation V-4
1.Sir Walter Menteith, of Rusky and Kerse

2.Joan Menteith
married (1) circa 1323
Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Orkney and
Caithness, son of Malise, 6th Earl of Strathearn,
and Egidia/Agnes Comyn
born circa 1275-1280, died circa 1329
married (2)
John Campbell, Earl of Atholl
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married (3) contracted 11 July 1339
Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir John
Moray, of Drumsagard, and Mary of Strathearn
killed in battle 17 October 1346 Neville's Cross
married (4) contracted 9 November 1347
William, 5th Earl of Sutherland, son of Kenneth,
4th Earl of Sutherland, and Mary of Mar
died 27 February 1370/June 1371

----------------------------------------

To be continued
Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" 1315.
441. Ibid. Isabel Graham, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham, of.
442. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray. DTR OF SIR John of Abercorn Graham.
443. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, generally appears as Elizabeth.
444. Mike Ashley, The mammoth book of British Kings and Queens, Julian Lock, 1999 Carrol and Graff Publishers 19 W 21 St, NY, chart 23.
445. http://genweb.net/~stotts/index/ind0042.html, http://genweb.net/~stotts/sources.html#S362, soucred to Scots Kith and Kin.
446. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, generally appears as Elizabeth in SGM.
447. Ibid. cites SP IV 135-137 -Subject: Re: Fergus, Lord of Galloway. Date: 1997/04/26 URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19970426020331.00680b90%40cyllene.uwa.edu.au.
448. Todd Farmerie, post in SGM (SocGeneology.midieval), post specifics in detail field, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, "Uchtred" Subject: Re: King of Man Date: 1998/04/27 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=3544AF7F.26D8%40po.cwru.edu.
449. Mike Ashley, The mammoth book of British Kings and Queens, Julian Lock, 1999 Carrol and Graff Publishers 19 W 21 St, NY, chart 23 Uhtred.
450. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Uchtred, Lord of Galloway-From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
451. http://genweb.net/~stotts/index/ind0042.html, http://genweb.net/~stotts/sources.html#S362, sourced to Scots Kith and Kin.
452. " Stevens/Southworth/Medieval Database GREAT SITE-citations given," Gedcom with good source notations.varying in reliability. ALso ften transcribes from SGM for careful cross referencing and where this data base is extremely helpful., jimstevens@in.freei.net, http://www.gendex.com/users/jast/, cites Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (38:25), (69:29), (184A:8), (236:9).
453. Ibid. a few days before Christmas 1200; in Northampton.
454. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Elena DE MOREVILLE From: Leo van de Pas Subject: John Comyn Date: 1998/12/31 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=4&selm=3.0.2.32.19981231160941.00d0efec%40mail.iinet.net.au.
455. " Stevens/Southworth/Medieval Database GREAT SITE-citations given," Gedcom with good source notations.varying in reliability. ALso ften transcribes from SGM for careful cross referencing and where this data base is extremely helpful., jimstevens@in.freei.net, http://www.gendex.com/users/jast/, Helena de MORVILLE-cites Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (38:25).
456. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, INDEX=I8713.
457. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal01843 Alan, Lord Of Galloway DE GALLOWAY.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
458. CP=Complete Peerage, G. E. Cokayne (G E C et al). XII/2 932-see narrative.
459. ES =Europaische Stammtafeln ., publisher, V. Klostermann, (published in four distinct series, for this citation most people give ES then details on portion ES from which retrieved. Full citation ES found below as provided by John P Dulong, Phd (see URL link below accessed nov 2001), full citation for 3rd series is:Schwennicke, Detlev.  Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge. [European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series.], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven. 16 vols.  Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt , 1978-1995., The newest, forth, series is entitled Eurpäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge (started with vol. 17 and is now being published at Frankfurt am Main, Germany, by Verlag Vittorio Klostermann.)and Detlev Schwennicke is the sole author, full citation and discussion Europäische Stammtafeln by John P. DuLong, Ph.D. URL http://habitant.org/tools/esnotes.htm, ES X 13-see narrative.
460. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, 1245.
461. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, bef 1296-see narrative.
462. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester,.
463. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, appears as Roger earl of winchester 1.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
464. "GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com post," http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=soc.genealogy.medieval, see narrative-appears as Roger earl of winchester II.
465. F.L.Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists.," http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/sixty.html, F.L.Weis collected a set of lines from sixty colonists, who came from New England between 1623 and 1650. These lines are entries into the world of higher nobility of Europe., 6th Ed., Baltimore, 1988, 25 Apr 1264.
466. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1264.
467. "Paul B. McBride's Genealogy SOURCED at LOCATION," Sources vary in their reliability, but general sources are given for all entries, GREAT SITE [Much Midieval Geneology], pbmcbride@rcn.com., http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pmcbride/genweb.html, viewed 062801, Sources provided: Key to references: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pmcbride/rfc/ref.htm, Paul B. McBride.
468. [Burkes] DUNBAR OF MOCHRUM, Bt, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Father to Marjorie "Alexander, Earl of Buchan and Constable of Scotland (see BURKE's Dormant & Extinct Peerages)".
469. From UTZ , citing Complete Peerage [UTZ=Always optimistic--Dave] in SGM
URL and detail on post at end of text. CP is Complete Peerage in this text.
Article in entirity:

"Please excuse any typos or scanning errors--corrections welcome, since I do not have CP vol XIV.


Mar, with Buchan [now (1887), together forming Aberdeenshire and Banffshire], was one of the seven original Earldoms [Mormaerships] of Scotland, the rulers of which [who, in the 10th century, were styled "Mormaers"] were, early in the 12th century, known as "Earls." Buchan existed as one of the recognised seven "Earldoms" in 1279, the last date at which we hear of "The Seven
Earldoms" as such.

I 1. Gartnach, Mormaer of Buchan, son and heir of Cainneach [i.e. Kenneth], who appears to have derived his title to the Mormaership through his wife, Ete, daughter of Gilliemathil or Gilliemichael, not improbably the Earl of Fife of that name, was witness to the charter of Scone, dated 1115, as "Gartnach Comes," i.e. Earl of Buchan [SCT]. He and his wife were living in 1132.

II 2. Eve, daughter and heir married Colban who, in her right became Earl of Buchan.

III 3. Roger, Earl of Buchan, son and heir.

IV 4. Fergus, Earl of Buchan, son or brother of Roger.

V 5. Margaret, daughter and heir, married William Comyn, Justiciary of Scotland, Earl of Buchan in his wife's right; founded the Abbey of Deer in Buchan.

VI 6. Alexander [Comyn] Earl of Buchan [SCT], son and heir by 2nd husband, one of the powerful nobles of the time. Justiciar [SCT], 1251-55 and 1257-89. he inherited large estates in Galloway, Fife, and the Lothians, and the office of Constable [SCT] in right of his wife. Was one of the nobles who, 4 February 1283/4, engaged to maintain the succession to the Crown of Margaret of Scotland, and was one of the six Guardians [SCT] on the death of Alexander III in 1285. [CP 2:374-5]

VII 7. John [Comyn], Earl of Buchan [SCT], son and heir, aged 30 years and
more at his father's death. Was one of the nominees of Balliol in 1291, in
which year, as also in 1296, he swore fealty to Edward I. He encountered
Robert Bruce 26 December 1307, and again, at Inverury [sp?], 22 May 1308,
where he was totally defeated, after which he retired to England, when his
estates in Scotland [and possibly his honours]n were forfeited. [CP 2:375]

VIII 8. Alice [Comyn], neice of John above, daughter of John's brother
Alexander, Suo jure Countess of Buchan [SCT], married HENRY BEAUMONT younger
son of Louis DE BRIENNE styled D'ACRE jure uxoris Vicomte OF BEAUMONT in
Maine, by Agnes, daughter and eventually sole heir of Raoul, Vicomte of
Beaumont, attended Edward I in the Scottish wars in 1302, from whose
successor he obtained large grants of land, chiefly in co. Lincoln, being
styled in 1307-08), "consanguineus Regis, " i.e. 2nd cousin. ) He was joint
Warden of Scotland (south of Forth) and a Knight in 1308, and was sum. to
Parliament from 4 March 1308/9 to 20 October 1332, by writs directed Henrico
de Bellomonte, whereby he may be held to have become LORD BEAUMONT; and from
22 January 1333/4 to 16 November 1339, as EARL OF
BUCHAN. This latter designation was from his having married, about 1310,
Alice, 1st daughter and coheir of Alexander COMYN, Sheriff of Aberdeen
[1305], probably by Joan, sister of William LE LATIMER, his wife, and niece
and heir of line to John [COMYN], Earl of Buchan [Scotland], with whom he had
divers lands of which he had livery 1312-13. On 16 March 1310, he had a
grant of the LORDSHIP OF THE ISLE OF MAN for life "by the services which the
Lords thereof had usually performed to the Kings of Scotland," and appears to
have held the same till 20 Oct 1312. He was Warden and Constable of divers
castles, &c., was on many embassies to France (1312 to 133 1), and on one to
Pope Clement V in 1312. He fought at Boroughbridge ex parte Regis, 16 March
1321/2. He was P.C. and CONSTABLE OF ENGLAND 1322. On 5 June 1323, he was
imprisoned for contempt and disobedience at the Council. Notwithstanding
these high preferments, he sided against the King, whose escape he prevented,
and who consequently was, shortly afterwards, murdered at Berkeley Castle.
For this he was rewarded by a grant of Loughborough Castle, in 1334. In 1336
he was Constable of the Army, and in 1338 JUSTICIAR OF SCOTLAND. He died 10
March 1339/40. His widow, "reputed to be of full age" December 1312, died in
1349, before 10 August. [CP 2:59-60]

Always optimistic--Dave"

From: UTZ@aol.com (UTZ@aol.com)
Subject: Earls of BUCHAN, I-VIII
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/07/26
URL
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Fergus+Earl+of+Buchan%22&hl=en&selm=99.81c8f0a.26b05376%40aol.com&rnum=1
470. [Burkes] DUNBAR OF MOCHRUM, Bt, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Lady Marjorie Comyn, dau of Alexander, Earl of Buchan and Constable of Scotland (see BURKE's Dormant & Extinct Peerages),.
471. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal37834 Marjory COMYN.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
472. [Burkes] DUNBAR OF MOCHRUM, Bt, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, PATRICK 'BLACK-BEARD', EARL OF MARCH, assumed the style of March as holding his earldom on the Border.
473. Ibid.
474. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1282.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
475. [Burkes] DUNBAR OF MOCHRUM, Bt, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Married, no date.
476. Ibid. Patrick, Earl of March.
477. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 342.
478. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
479. [Burkes] DUNBAR OF MOCHRUM, Bt, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 11 nov 1368.
480. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 1369 cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
481. Ibid. "earl of Dunbar 9th" cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
482. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, "Patrick Earl of Dunbar 8th De Dunbar".
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
483. [Burkes] DUNBAR OF MOCHRUM, Bt, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as wife held Dunbar for nineteen weeks against the English in 1338, and forced them to retire.
484. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1320.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
485. [Burkes] DUNBAR OF MOCHRUM, Bt, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, married no date.
486. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, CP IV:39-cited by From Suzanne Doig- URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=362fa2fb.607487%40news.canterbury.ac.nz.
487. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 342 Lady Agnes Dunbar, dtr of Black Agnes and Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith died 1420 http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi?SEC=Some-20Colonial-20Dames-20of-20Royal-20Descent&IN=006801&PN=342&CD=506.
488. Libby, "Descendants of Robert II of Scotland," http://libby.withnall.com/robert/database.htm, accessed 092700, libby@withnall.com, Libby states information is sourced, and that she will send it to me (092700).
489. [Burke's] DOUGLAS EARLS OF MORTON, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, SIR JAMES DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith.
490. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray, 3rd husband to Stewart.
491. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" "James [Sir] of Dalkeith, DOUGLAS son of Sir John Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)".
492. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 1420 cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
493. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" 1420.
494. [Burke's] DOUGLAS EARLS OF MORTON, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp.
495. Ibid. as dtr "Jacoba".
496. [Burke's] DUKES, HAMILTON OF ABERCORN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as Hamilton wife =Janet dau of Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith (see MORTON, E).
497. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, Wife Janet (Jacoba) dtr of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith.
498. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, Lady Janet Douglas] p 342.
499. Ibid. p 342 Janet [Lady] Douglas.
500. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Jacoba Douglas Jacoba Douglas cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
501. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, ohn Hamilton of Cadzow, Knight, witnessed a charter 14 May 1392....
502. [Burke's] DUKES, HAMILTON OF ABERCORN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp.
503. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, LEO van de Pas in SGM Subject: Re: James II of Scotland--who were his ancestors? 1999/7/15 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=John,+of+Cadzow,&hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19990716055948.01c1e98c%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1.
504. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]"
505. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow] ( -1402) http://groups.google.com/groups?q=janet+of+Callendar&hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com&rnum=2.
506. Ibid. James, of Cadzow, HAMILTON cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
507. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 342 Sir John of Cadyow HAMILTON.
508. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, before 1410.
509. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
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10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" 14 Sep 1402.
510. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 1402 cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
511. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, before bef 28 Jul 1397 as per source.
512. [Burke's] DOUGLAS EARLS OF MORTON, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, (contract 1 Nov 1388).
513. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, Married, no date offered.
514. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, "bef 28 Jul 1397" p 342.
515. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, James Hamilton of Cadzow, Knight, hostage in 1424 and 1426...
516. [Burke's] DUKES, HAMILTON OF ABERCORN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, SIR JAMES HAMILTON, 5th of Cadzow.
517. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, James of Cadzow Hamilton cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
518. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, Sir James Hamilton of Cadyow.
519. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, J 5th LEO van de Pas in SGM [sources provided, an amalgam] Subject: Re: James II of Scotland--who were his ancestors? 1999/7/15 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=John,+of+Cadzow,&hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19990716055948.01c1e98c%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1.
520. Ibid. 1440 cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
521. Ibid. 1441 LEO van de Pas in SGM [sources provided, an amalgam] Subject: Re: James II of Scotland--who were his ancestors? 1999/7/15 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=John,+of+Cadzow,&hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19990716055948.01c1e98c%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1.
522. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, Before 1441.
523. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Leo Van de Pas SGM post Subject: Re: James II of Scotland--who were his ancestors? 1997/7/15 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=John,+of+Cadzow,&hl=en&selm=1.5.4.32.19990716055948.01c1e98c%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1.
524. Ibid. Janet, of Callendar, LIVINGSTONE cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
525. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 342 Lady Janet Livingston.
526. SGM post from Suzanne Doig
Subject: Graham of Abercorn, Kincardine etc.
Date: 1998/11/26

The source for the early part of the chart is predominantly Burke's
Peerage sub Montrose. The later part of the chart draws on Burke's and
the 'Complete Peerage' sub Graham, Montrose and Strathearn.
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=Janet+Livingston+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=365c9b54.5279807%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=3

In part
"24. Euphemia GRAHAM, married (1) 24 Feb 1423, Archibald DOUGLAS,
5th Earl of Douglas, born about 1390, (son of Archibald DOUGLAS, 4th
Earl of Douglas and Lady Margaret STEWART) died 26 Jun 1439,
Restalrig, Scotland; married (2) dispensation 2 Feb 1441, James
HAMILTON, 1st Lord Hamilton, born 1423, (son of Sir James HAMILTON
and Janet LIVINGSTON) died 6 Nov 1479. Euphemia died Aug/Nov 1468.
Children by Archibald DOUGLAS:
i Margaret DOUGLAS, married John STEWART, 1st
Earl of Atholl, born about 1440, (son of Sir
James STEWART of Lorn and Lady Joan BEAUFORT)
died 15 Sep 1512, Laighwood. Margaret died
about 1475. Descendants.
ii William DOUGLAS, 6th Earl of Douglas died 1440
iii David DOUGLAS died 1440.
Children by James HAMILTON:
iv Elizabeth HAMILTON, married (1) 1459,
(divorced before 1485) David LINDSAY, 5th
Earl of Crawford, Duke of Montrose, born 1440,
(son of Alexander LINDSAY, 4th Earl of
Crawford and Margaret DUNBAR) died Dec 1495;
married (2) before 1508 (divorced) John
FORRESTER of Niddrie. Elizabeth died after
1516. Descendants by first marriage.' Janet Livingstone.
527. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, Wife Janet dtr of Sir Alexander Livingston of Callendar.
528. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 342 bef 20 Oct 1422.
529. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, contract 20 Oct 1422.
530. Ibid. "A4 Gavin Hamilton, provost of the collegiate church of Bothwell, ancestor of the Hamiltons of Orbiston and father of a natural son: B1 Thomas Hamilton".
531. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Gavin Hamilton 1st of Orbiston.
532. [Burke's] DUKES, HAMILTON OF ABERCORN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, "GAVIN HAMILTON, 1st of Orbiston, first mentioned in a charter of 1441; m Jean, dau of ­ Hamilton, of Woodhall, and d before 1493, having had issue, ".
533. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, Gavin Hamilton p 343 States, "see Wood's Douglas's 'Peerage of Scotland' i, 311, 695".
534. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Gavin Hamilton 1st of Orbiston under Hamilton Barons Hamilton of Dalzell.
535. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 343 Jean dtr of Hamilton of Woodhall married John of Orbiston Hamilton.
536. [Burke's] DUKES, HAMILTON OF ABERCORN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Jean dtr of Hamilton of Woodhall married Gavin Hamilton 1st of Woodhall.
537. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Jean dtr of Hamilton of Woodhall married GAVIN HAMILTON, 1st of Orbiston.
538. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp.
539. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, GAVIN HAMILTON, 2nd of Orbiston.
540. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 343 Gavin of Orbiston and Raplock Hamilton.
541. Ibid. p 343.
542. Ibid. p 343 1540.
543. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Before July 1558.
544. Ibid.
545. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 343 Helen Dtr of Wallace, of Cairnhill.
546. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, JOHN HAMILTON, 3rd of Orbiston.
547. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 343 John Hamilton.
548. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 'battle of Langsyde 14 May 1568'.
549. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 343 battle of Langsyde.
550. Ibid. p 343 John of Orbiston Hamilton.
551. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, under Hamilton Barons Hamilton of Dalzell http://www.burkes-peerage.net/code/hith/FamilyView.htm.
552. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dtr: 2a Marjory; m Dundas, of Duddingstoun.
553. [Burkes] DUNDAS OF DUNDAS, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as son and husband "David of Duddingston".
554. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, husband NN "Dundas of Duddinstoun ".
555. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 343 David of Duddingston Dundas.
556. [Burkes] DUNDAS OF DUNDAS, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, "2b David, of Duddingston, c 1600; m Marjory, dau of John Hamilton, 3rd of Orbiston (see HAMILTON OF DALZELL, B), and had issue.".
557. [Burke's] HAMILTON BARONS HAMILTON OF DALZELL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, married no date.
558. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, James Dundas of Duddingston States "See Burke's' Landed Gentry' 1858" From Colonial Dames..: p 343 URl http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi?SEC=Some-20Colonial-20Dames-20of-20Royal-20Descent&IN=006802&PN=343&CD=506.
559. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, Dundas.
560. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dundas of Dundas Family file.
561. Ibid. Dundas of Dundas Family File.
562. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, page 23.
563. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as wife [her husband is not largely identified] and daughter in Dundas of Dundas.
564. Ibid. Scots Peerage Dundas of Dundas.
565. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, page 23 James HUME.
566. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Scots Peerage Dundas of Dundas : James Home.
567. Ibid. Marriage found in Dundas of Dundas.
568. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/.
569. [Burke's] MONTGOMERIE-EARLS OF EGLINTO(U)N AND WINTON, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, William of Drumlanrig DOUGLAS.
570. [Burke's] DOUGLAS EARLS OF MORTON, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as Husband to Jonetta=Sir William of Drumlanrig DOUGLAS.
571. Ibid. (dispensation 12 June 1410),.
572. [Burke's] MONTGOMERIE-EARLS OF EGLINTO(U)N AND WINTON, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1410 2nd husband.
573. SGM post by Leo Van de Pas. [Stewart Saga - One] (first of five articles with sources provided in 5th and final article and included below ).
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - One
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=1&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213095210.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au

Sources provided by Leo Van de Pas at end of text
1)Burke's Extinct Peerage 1866, by Sir Bernard Burke
2)Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973
3)Burke's Peerage, 1938
4)Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937
5)The Complete Peerage
6)The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles. Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget
7)Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill, Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart

Post reads


"This may not be complete as I am still collecting
information. Some children may well be missing, but the
important members are here :

Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland,
He was granted the hereditary office, the greatest under the Scottish
Crown, of High or Great Steward of Scotland. With it came vast estates.
About 1163 he founded the Paisley Priory for Cluniac monks and was made a
lay brother of the Benedictine Order. In 1164 he repelled the invasion into
Renfrewshire by the Islesmen. He died in 1177.
He married Eochyna de Molle, daughter of Thomas de Molle
Child : Generation I.
-----------
Generation I.
1.Alan, 2nd High Steward of Scotland, died in 1204.
He appears to have joined the crusade of Richard
'Lionheart'. His wife, Eve, was probably a daughter of
Sweyn Thor'son, overlord of Crawford and ancestor of
the Ruthvens.
children : Generation II
-----------
Generation II.
1.Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland, died 1241.
HE WAS THE FIRST TO ASSUME THE NAME STEWART as their
family name. About 1219 he raised the Paisley Priory
to the rank of an Abbacy and, from 1230, was Justiciar
of Scotland north of Perth.
married Beatrice of Angus, daughter of Gilchrist, Earl of Angus
children Generation III
2.David
------------------
Generation III
1.Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
born 1214, died 1283
married Jean Macrory, daughter of James (Seumas)
Macrory, Lord of Bute
Children : Generation IV-1
2.John Stewart
killed in battle 1249 Damietta

3.Walter 'Bailloch', Earl of Menteith (jure uxoris)
died before 28 April 1296
married Mary of Menteith, daughter of Maurice 'the
Younger", Earl of Menteith
she died before 1286
Children : Generation IV-2

4.Elizabeth Stewart, died before 1250
married Maldouen, 3rd Earl of Lennox, son of Alwyn,
2nd Earl of Lennox, and Eve Menteith
died after 12 March 1250

5.Euphemia Stewart, died circa 1267
married before 1213
Patrick Dunbar, 5th or 6th Earl of Dunbar, son of Patrick,
4th or 5th Earl of Dunbar, and Ada of Scotland
died 1248 Marseille
In 1232 he succeeded his father as Earl of Dunbar. In 1235
he was in command of the army send against the Bastard
of Galloway, whom he subdued. He acted as guarantor of a
treaty with England in 1237 and again in 1244. He was in
charge of a Scottish army which left Scotland in November
1247 to join the French king Louis IX's crusade, but died
at Marseille between May and December 1248. His widow,
Euphemia Stewart, lived at Whittingham in East Lothian,
and died possibly about 1267.

6.Margaret Stewart
married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick, son of Duncan,
1st Earl of Carrick
died 1256
---------------
Generation IV-1
1.James Stewart, 5th High Stewart of Scotland
born circa 1243, died 16 July 1309
In 1286 he was co-Regent of Scotland as one of the six
guardians of the Realm and supported the claims of the
elder Robert Bruce to the throne. Opposing Edward I,
King of England's attempts to dominate Scotland, in 1295
ratified the treaty with France but, in 1297, was forced
to submit to the English king. The English sent him to
negotiate with Wallace but joined him instead, and fought
for him against the English at Stirling Bridge. He
supported King Robert The Bruce and attended the Parliament
at St.Andrews. He died on 16 July 1309.
married Gille/Jill de Burgh, of Ulster, daughter of Walter
de Burgh, Lord of Connaught, 1st Earl of Ulster, and
Aveline FitzJohn, of Shere
Children : Generation V-1

2.Sir John Stewart, of Bonkill, Berwickshire
born circa 1250, killed in battle 22 July 1298 Falkirk
Wallace praised his bravery above all men. He brought his
own Islesmen from Bute and his wife's Border archers to
aid the national cause, but was killed fighting for Sir
William Wallace at the battle of Falkirk.
married Margaret de Bonkill, daughter of Alexander de
Bonkill.
Children : Generation V-2

3.Elizabeth Stewart
married Sir William Douglas "Le Hardi", son of
Sir William Douglas
died as prisoner before 24 January 1296 in London

----------------------------------------------

Generation IV-2
1.Alexander, Earl of Menteith
died before 1306
married Maud
children : Generation V-3

2.Sir John de Menteith of Rusky
died circa 1323
married NN
children : generation V-4

To be continued :

Leo van de Pas " Duncan**, Earl Of Carrick 1st,.
574. [Burke's] CARRICK, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp.
575. SGM post by Leo Van de Pas. [Stewart Saga - One] (first of five articles with sources provided in 5th and final article and included below ).
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - One
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=1&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213095210.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au

Sources provided by Leo Van de Pas at end of text
1)Burke's Extinct Peerage 1866, by Sir Bernard Burke
2)Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973
3)Burke's Peerage, 1938
4)Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937
5)The Complete Peerage
6)The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles. Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget
7)Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill, Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart

Post reads


"This may not be complete as I am still collecting
information. Some children may well be missing, but the
important members are here :

Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland,
He was granted the hereditary office, the greatest under the Scottish
Crown, of High or Great Steward of Scotland. With it came vast estates.
About 1163 he founded the Paisley Priory for Cluniac monks and was made a
lay brother of the Benedictine Order. In 1164 he repelled the invasion into
Renfrewshire by the Islesmen. He died in 1177.
He married Eochyna de Molle, daughter of Thomas de Molle
Child : Generation I.
-----------
Generation I.
1.Alan, 2nd High Steward of Scotland, died in 1204.
He appears to have joined the crusade of Richard
'Lionheart'. His wife, Eve, was probably a daughter of
Sweyn Thor'son, overlord of Crawford and ancestor of
the Ruthvens.
children : Generation II
-----------
Generation II.
1.Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland, died 1241.
HE WAS THE FIRST TO ASSUME THE NAME STEWART as their
family name. About 1219 he raised the Paisley Priory
to the rank of an Abbacy and, from 1230, was Justiciar
of Scotland north of Perth.
married Beatrice of Angus, daughter of Gilchrist, Earl of Angus
children Generation III
2.David
------------------
Generation III
1.Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
born 1214, died 1283
married Jean Macrory, daughter of James (Seumas)
Macrory, Lord of Bute
Children : Generation IV-1
2.John Stewart
killed in battle 1249 Damietta

3.Walter 'Bailloch', Earl of Menteith (jure uxoris)
died before 28 April 1296
married Mary of Menteith, daughter of Maurice 'the
Younger", Earl of Menteith
she died before 1286
Children : Generation IV-2

4.Elizabeth Stewart, died before 1250
married Maldouen, 3rd Earl of Lennox, son of Alwyn,
2nd Earl of Lennox, and Eve Menteith
died after 12 March 1250

5.Euphemia Stewart, died circa 1267
married before 1213
Patrick Dunbar, 5th or 6th Earl of Dunbar, son of Patrick,
4th or 5th Earl of Dunbar, and Ada of Scotland
died 1248 Marseille
In 1232 he succeeded his father as Earl of Dunbar. In 1235
he was in command of the army send against the Bastard
of Galloway, whom he subdued. He acted as guarantor of a
treaty with England in 1237 and again in 1244. He was in
charge of a Scottish army which left Scotland in November
1247 to join the French king Louis IX's crusade, but died
at Marseille between May and December 1248. His widow,
Euphemia Stewart, lived at Whittingham in East Lothian,
and died possibly about 1267.

6.Margaret Stewart
married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick, son of Duncan,
1st Earl of Carrick
died 1256
---------------
Generation IV-1
1.James Stewart, 5th High Stewart of Scotland
born circa 1243, died 16 July 1309
In 1286 he was co-Regent of Scotland as one of the six
guardians of the Realm and supported the claims of the
elder Robert Bruce to the throne. Opposing Edward I,
King of England's attempts to dominate Scotland, in 1295
ratified the treaty with France but, in 1297, was forced
to submit to the English king. The English sent him to
negotiate with Wallace but joined him instead, and fought
for him against the English at Stirling Bridge. He
supported King Robert The Bruce and attended the Parliament
at St.Andrews. He died on 16 July 1309.
married Gille/Jill de Burgh, of Ulster, daughter of Walter
de Burgh, Lord of Connaught, 1st Earl of Ulster, and
Aveline FitzJohn, of Shere
Children : Generation V-1

2.Sir John Stewart, of Bonkill, Berwickshire
born circa 1250, killed in battle 22 July 1298 Falkirk
Wallace praised his bravery above all men. He brought his
own Islesmen from Bute and his wife's Border archers to
aid the national cause, but was killed fighting for Sir
William Wallace at the battle of Falkirk.
married Margaret de Bonkill, daughter of Alexander de
Bonkill.
Children : Generation V-2

3.Elizabeth Stewart
married Sir William Douglas "Le Hardi", son of
Sir William Douglas
died as prisoner before 24 January 1296 in London

----------------------------------------------

Generation IV-2
1.Alexander, Earl of Menteith
died before 1306
married Maud
children : Generation V-3

2.Sir John de Menteith of Rusky
died circa 1323
married NN
children : generation V-4

To be continued :

Leo van de Pas " Neil **Earl Of Carrick 2nd,.
576. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Neil 2nd Earl of Carrick, husband from Stuart, Earls of Moray.
577. http://genweb.net/~stotts/index/ind0042.html, http://genweb.net/~stotts/sources.html#S362, Sourced to [S362] Scots Kith & Kin.
578. Ibid. sourced to [S362] Scots Kith & Kin 1256 Argyll.
579. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1256 Stuart, Earls of Moray.
580. SGM post by Leo Van de Pas. [Stewart Saga - One] (first of five articles with sources provided in 5th and final article and included below ).
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - One
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&rnum=1&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213095210.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au

Sources provided by Leo Van de Pas at end of text
1)Burke's Extinct Peerage 1866, by Sir Bernard Burke
2)Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973
3)Burke's Peerage, 1938
4)Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937
5)The Complete Peerage
6)The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles. Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget
7)Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill, Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart

Post reads


"This may not be complete as I am still collecting
information. Some children may well be missing, but the
important members are here :

Walter Fitzalan, 1st High Steward of Scotland,
He was granted the hereditary office, the greatest under the Scottish
Crown, of High or Great Steward of Scotland. With it came vast estates.
About 1163 he founded the Paisley Priory for Cluniac monks and was made a
lay brother of the Benedictine Order. In 1164 he repelled the invasion into
Renfrewshire by the Islesmen. He died in 1177.
He married Eochyna de Molle, daughter of Thomas de Molle
Child : Generation I.
-----------
Generation I.
1.Alan, 2nd High Steward of Scotland, died in 1204.
He appears to have joined the crusade of Richard
'Lionheart'. His wife, Eve, was probably a daughter of
Sweyn Thor'son, overlord of Crawford and ancestor of
the Ruthvens.
children : Generation II
-----------
Generation II.
1.Walter Stewart, 3rd High Steward of Scotland, died 1241.
HE WAS THE FIRST TO ASSUME THE NAME STEWART as their
family name. About 1219 he raised the Paisley Priory
to the rank of an Abbacy and, from 1230, was Justiciar
of Scotland north of Perth.
married Beatrice of Angus, daughter of Gilchrist, Earl of Angus
children Generation III
2.David
------------------
Generation III
1.Alexander Stewart, 4th High Steward of Scotland
born 1214, died 1283
married Jean Macrory, daughter of James (Seumas)
Macrory, Lord of Bute
Children : Generation IV-1
2.John Stewart
killed in battle 1249 Damietta

3.Walter 'Bailloch', Earl of Menteith (jure uxoris)
died before 28 April 1296
married Mary of Menteith, daughter of Maurice 'the
Younger", Earl of Menteith
she died before 1286
Children : Generation IV-2

4.Elizabeth Stewart, died before 1250
married Maldouen, 3rd Earl of Lennox, son of Alwyn,
2nd Earl of Lennox, and Eve Menteith
died after 12 March 1250

5.Euphemia Stewart, died circa 1267
married before 1213
Patrick Dunbar, 5th or 6th Earl of Dunbar, son of Patrick,
4th or 5th Earl of Dunbar, and Ada of Scotland
died 1248 Marseille
In 1232 he succeeded his father as Earl of Dunbar. In 1235
he was in command of the army send against the Bastard
of Galloway, whom he subdued. He acted as guarantor of a
treaty with England in 1237 and again in 1244. He was in
charge of a Scottish army which left Scotland in November
1247 to join the French king Louis IX's crusade, but died
at Marseille between May and December 1248. His widow,
Euphemia Stewart, lived at Whittingham in East Lothian,
and died possibly about 1267.

6.Margaret Stewart
married Neil, 2nd Earl of Carrick, son of Duncan,
1st Earl of Carrick
died 1256
---------------
Generation IV-1
1.James Stewart, 5th High Stewart of Scotland
born circa 1243, died 16 July 1309
In 1286 he was co-Regent of Scotland as one of the six
guardians of the Realm and supported the claims of the
elder Robert Bruce to the throne. Opposing Edward I,
King of England's attempts to dominate Scotland, in 1295
ratified the treaty with France but, in 1297, was forced
to submit to the English king. The English sent him to
negotiate with Wallace but joined him instead, and fought
for him against the English at Stirling Bridge. He
supported King Robert The Bruce and attended the Parliament
at St.Andrews. He died on 16 July 1309.
married Gille/Jill de Burgh, of Ulster, daughter of Walter
de Burgh, Lord of Connaught, 1st Earl of Ulster, and
Aveline FitzJohn, of Shere
Children : Generation V-1

2.Sir John Stewart, of Bonkill, Berwickshire
born circa 1250, killed in battle 22 July 1298 Falkirk
Wallace praised his bravery above all men. He brought his
own Islesmen from Bute and his wife's Border archers to
aid the national cause, but was killed fighting for Sir
William Wallace at the battle of Falkirk.
married Margaret de Bonkill, daughter of Alexander de
Bonkill.
Children : Generation V-2

3.Elizabeth Stewart
married Sir William Douglas "Le Hardi", son of
Sir William Douglas
died as prisoner before 24 January 1296 in London

----------------------------------------------

Generation IV-2
1.Alexander, Earl of Menteith
died before 1306
married Maud
children : Generation V-3

2.Sir John de Menteith of Rusky
died circa 1323
married NN
children : generation V-4

To be continued :

Leo van de Pas " 1256.
581. GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives, http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/, Nigel Of Carrick.
582. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal04068 Neil Earl Of Carrick 2nd, OF CARRICK.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
583. John Watt, viewed 092200, McCurdyL@Rootsweb, kiwi@whidbey.net, Margaret.
584. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, de Kilconcath, Adam, Earl of Carrick 3rd.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
585. Suzanne Doig post in SGM-Ahnentafel Report, SEE ALSO SOURCE # 1358 where Ahnentafel is provided, "Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR Date 1998/12/22," http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alesta+of+Mar&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz, No sources provided, but Suzanne is a freqent contributor at SGM and has her own webpages with sources mentioned, Suzanne's web pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4038/geneal.htm, Adam de KILCONCATH (died 1268/1270).
586. Ibid. 1268/70.
587. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1268.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
588. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323".
589. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of Philorth.," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html#Alexander%20Fraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, wife to Fraser.
590. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Campbell of Lochow and Argyll to end of 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/campbe01.html#Neil, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, wife to Campbell.
591. [Burke's ] DUKES, CAMPBELL- OF ARGYLL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp.
592. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal03664 Mary Bruce.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
593. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of Philorth.," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html#Alexander%20Fraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, "Sir Neil Campbell of Lochow, ".
594. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Campbell of Lochow and Argyll to end of 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/campbe01.html#Neil, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, "Neil (or Nigel) Campbell of Lochow, Knight".
595. [Burke's ] DUKES, CAMPBELL- OF ARGYLL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, SIR NIGEL (or Neil) CAMPBELL.
596. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Campbell of Lochow and Argyll to end of 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/campbe01.html#Neil, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, his 3rd marriage ca 1312.
597. [Burke's ] DUKES, CAMPBELL- OF ARGYLL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, his 3rd marriage ca 1312.
598. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of Philorth.," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html#Alexander%20Fraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, "Alexander Fraser of Touchfraser and Cowie".
599. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of that Ilk," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser01.html#Alexander%20Fraser%20of%20Touchfraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, Alexander Fraser of Touchfraser, Knight, Chamberlain of Scotland.
600. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332 Battle Duplin".
601. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Campbell of Lochow and Argyll to end of 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/campbe01.html#Neil, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, 2nd husband to Mary, wife of Campbell.
602. [Burkes] FRASER-LORDS SALTOUN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, SIR ALEXANDER FRASER of Touchfraser.
603. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of Philorth.," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html#Alexander%20Fraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, 1332 K at battle of Dupplin.
604. [Burkes] FRASER-LORDS SALTOUN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 12 Aug 1332 K at battle of Dupplin.
605. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of Philorth.," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html#Alexander%20Fraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, 1316.
606. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332".
607. [Burkes] FRASER-LORDS SALTOUN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1316.
608. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of Philorth.," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html#Alexander%20Fraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, John of Touchfraser FRASER.
609. [Burkes] FRASER-LORDS SALTOUN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, SIR ALEXANDER FRASER of Touchfraser,.
610. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "78 John FRASER".
611. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Leo Van de pas http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22william+of+Douglas%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981115140014.00c06258%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=5.
612. Ibid.l&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981115140014.00c06258%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=5
613. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of Philorth.," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html#Alexander%20Fraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, "margaret Fraser" dtr of John of Touch, wife to William de Keith, Great Marischal of Scotland.
614. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "39 Margaret FRASER" wife to William Keith, Marishal.
615. [Burkes] FRASER-LORDS SALTOUN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, dtr of SIR ALEXANDER FRASER of Touchfraser.
616. SGM Post "Stewart Saga-Four" Leo van De Pas author, one of a series of five articles Sources as given for series in part five follow text of part four given below
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - FOUR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Original FormatDate: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+four%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213123706.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1

Post reads
"Generation VII-1
1st marriage
1.Robert III, king of Scots 1390-1406
born circa 1337, died 4 April 1406 Dundonald Castle
In 1388, John, Earl of Carrick, was kicked by a horse
and received an injury which left him lame for life.
When Robert II died in April 1390, he was succeeded
by a semi-invalid who was already over fifty. Carrick
took the name of Robert III as John appeared to have
been an unlucky name for kings.
Between Robert III's accession and his coronation
occurred one of the most notorious outrages ever
committed against the royal authority. On 17 June 1390,
the king's brother, Alexander, "the Wolf of Badenoch",
in pursuit of a feud with the Bishop of Moray, burned
the Cathedral and the town of Elgin with the parish church
and the Maison Dieu Hospital. Robert III and his
councillors made Alexander submit and promise reparations
to the bishop of Moray.
Robert III acknowledged his incapacity by delegating
his authority to his next brother, Robert, Earl of Fife,
who possessed both ability and ambition. However, while
they acted together against their brother, Alexander,
there was rivalry between the king and Robert, Earl of
Fife. After a period, Robert III ousted Fife but, under
his personal rule, law and order deteriorated sharply.
As a result, he appointed his son-and-heir, David, as his
deputy. However, despite a successful beginning, David
made powerful enemies, including his own brother-in-law
and his uncle, the latter imprisoning him in Falkland
Castle where he died, according to a parliamentary enquiry
"through Divine providence and not otherwise". However,
it seems more likely that he was killed on his uncle's
orders.
In 1406, in order to keep him safe from his uncle,
Robert III sent James, his 12-year-old son and heir, to
France. However, James's ship was captured by English
pirates and he spent the next 18 years in captivity.
The news killed Robert III. He had once said, "Bury me
in the midden, and write: "Here lies the worst of kings
and the most wretched of men".
married circa 1366
Annabella Drummond, daughter of Sir John Drummond, of
Stobhall and Mary Montfichet
(children)

2.Walter Stewart, Earl of Fife
died 14 August 1362
married Isabel MacDuff, Countess of Fife, daughter
of Duncan MacDuff, 10th Earl of Fife, and Mary
de Monthermer
died after 12 August 1389
(childless)

3.Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany
born circa 1340, died 3 September 1420 Stirling
In 1361 he became, in right of his wife, Earl of Menteith.
However, in 1371, he became Earl of Fife by which title
he was generally known. In 1388 King Robert II, his
elderly father, had him appointed 'Guardian of the Realm'.
In 1390, after their father's death, Fife's crippled
brother, Robert III, became King of Scots. The latter,
after acknowledging his own incapacity, appointed the
Earl of Fife again guardian of the kingdom. However, when
rivalry ensued between the two brothers, Fife was replaced
by David, the king's eldest son.
In March 1398, with his nephew David, he had an
interview with John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancasterm and other
English commissioners. As a result both the Earl of Fife
and his nephew became the first Dukes ever created in
Scotland. The Earl of Fife became Duke of Albany and his
nephew Duke of Rothesay.
For his complicity in the arrest and imprisonment of
the Duke of Rothesay he received a remission from
Parliament. When his nephew died while imprisoned, the
parliamentary enquiry decided that the death had been
caused by "Divine providence and not otherwise".
In 1406 when his brother died and the heir, James I,
was imprisoned in England, the Duke of Albany was made
Regent of the Kingdom. Albany had been blamed for not
securing the release of James I even though, in 1416,
he was able to ransom his own son. However, it was English
policy which kept James I captive. Several of Albany's
opponents met with sudden, mysterious deaths. However, he
was a clever politician who knew how to win people over
and seemed to have governed well, though being over 65
when he became Regent, and over 80 when he died in 1420.
married (1) 1361
Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith, daughter of
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith, and Mary, Countess
of Menteith
born circa 1339, died circa 1380
married (2) contracted 4 May 1380
Muriella Keith, daughter of Sir William Keith,
Marischal of of Scotland, and Margaret Fraser
died before 1 June 1449
(children)

4.Alexander Stewart "the Wolf of Badenoch", Earl of Buchan
died circa 1405
When the Bishop of Moray excommunicated him for deserting
his wife in favour of his mistress, he burnt the town of
Forres and the Cathedral of Elgin in 1390.
married circa July 1382
Eupheme de Ross, suo jure Countess of Ross, daughter
of William de Ross, 5th Earl of Ross and Mary NN
died circa 20 February 1395
(children)

5.Lady Margaret Stewart
marriage contracted 14 June 1350
Eoin "the Good", Lord of the Isles, High Chief of
Clan Donald, son of Angus 'Og', Lord of the Isles
and Agnes NN
died circa 1387 Ardtonish Castle

6.Lady Marjorie Stewart
died after 6 May 1417
married (1) contracted 11 July 1370
John Dunbar, Earl of Moray, son of George Dunbar,
Earl of Dunbar and March, and Christine Seton
died before 15 February 1392 York
married (2) circa 1403
Sir Alexander Keith, of Grantown

7.Lady Jean Stewart
married (1)
Sir John Keith
died before 27 December 1375
married (2) 1375
Sir John Lyon, of Glamis
killed 4 November 1382
married (3) circa November 1384
Sir James Sandilands, of Calder

8.Lady Isabella Stewart
died circa 1410
married (1) contracted 24 September 1371
James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas, Earl of Mar,
son of William Douglas, 1st Earl of Douglas, and
Lady Margaret Mar, Countess of Mar
born circa 1358
killed in battle circa 14 August 1388 Otterburn
married (2) circa 1390
Sir John Edmonstone

9.Lady Elizabeth Stewart
married before 7 November 1372
Sir Thomas Hay, of Erroll, Constable of Scotland,
son of Sir David Hay, of Erroll and NN Keith
died July 1406

2nd marriage
10.David Stewart, Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Caithness
died before 15 March 1390
Justiciar of Scotland, he was implicated in the plot
that led to King James I's assassination, and was
publicly tortured to death in Edinburgh, his head
crowned with a red-hot iron crown inscribed "the king
of traitors".
married NN Lindsay, daughter of Sir Alexander Lindsay,
of Glenesk and Catherine Stirling, heiress of Glenesk
(children)
11.Walter Stewart, Earl of Caithness, Earl of Athol
executed 26 March 1437 Stirling

12.Lady Egidia Stewart
married 1387
Sir William Douglas, of Nithsdale, son of Archibald
Douglas "the Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas, and NN

13.Lady Katherine Stewart
married 22 February 1375/1380
David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford, son of Sir
Alexander Lindsay, of Glenesk, and Catherine Stirling,
heiress of Glenesk
born circa 1360, died February 1407 Finhaven Castle

illegitimate
(by a)
14.Sir John Stewart "the Black Stewart"
hereditary Sheriff of Bute
mentioned 1385 and 1400
married Jean Semple, daughter of Sir John Semple
(children)
(by b)
15.Alexander Stewart, Canon of Glasgow

16.Alexander Stewart, of Inverlunan

17.James Stewart, of Kinfauns

18.Sir John Stewart, of Dundonald
Keeper of Dunbarton Castle
murdered in 1425

19.Thomas Stewart, Archdeacon of St.Andrews, Dean of Dunkeld

(by c)
20.Sir John Stewart, 1st of Cardney

to be continued

Leo van de Pas"
Sources cited in last article [Stewart Saga-Five]
Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart [dtr Muriella Keith was] daughter of Sir William Keith,Marischal of Scotland, and Margaret Fraser.
617. "THE BARONAGE PRESS. Fraser of Philorth.," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html#Alexander%20Fraser, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, husband to Margaret.
618. [Burkes] CRAWFORD-EARLS CRAWFORD AND BALCARRES, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Father to Margaret Crawford "Sir William Keith, Marshal of Scotland (see KINTORE, E) "-Earls Crawford and Balcarres.
619. [Burkes] LINDESAY-BETHUNE, EARLS OF LINDSAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Father to Christina.
620. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, father to Muriel Sir William Keith, Marischal of Scotland.
621. SGM post with citations , detail herein. From: UTZ@aol.com [optimistic Dave] Subject: Earls of Buchan IX-XII
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/07/26
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Earls+of+Buchan+IX-XII&selm=42.8b1840b.26b0539c%40aol.com&rnum=1
Reads" JOHN (STEWART), EARL OF BUCHAN [SCT], styling himself Earl of Ross [SCT], in consequence of the resignation by his niece Eupheme, in 1415, of that Earldom, 2nd son of the above, being 1st son by his 2nd wife, Muriel, daughter of Sir William KEITH, Marischal of Scotland. He was born about 1380, and succeeded his father under the charter of 1406, in the Earldom of Buchan. Chamberlain [SCT] 12 March 1406/7. In 1416 he was sent to England to treat for the release of James l. In 1420 he, with 7,000 Scots, went to France to support Charles VII, and after the battle of Baugé, 22 March 1420/1, where he greatly distinguished himself, was made Constable of France.
He married in November 1413, Elizabeth, daughter of Archibald (DOUGLAS), EARL OF DOUGLAS [SCT], by Lady Margaret STEWART, daughter of King ROBERT III.
He died s.p.m., being (wiih his wife's father) slain at the battle of Verneuil, in Normandy, against the English, 17 August 1424. His widow married, 2ndly, Sir Thomas STEWART, illegitimate son of the EARL OF MAR [SCT]. She married, 3rdly, as 1st wife, William (SINCLAIR), EARL OF ORKNEY, afterwards EARL OF CAITHNESS [SCT], who died between 1476 and 29 March 1482. She died shortly before 1451. [CP 2:377]" Sir William KEITH, Marischal of Scotland.
622. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410".
623. Ibid. 38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410.
624. Ibid. "19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437 ".
625. [BURKE'S] GORDON, MARQUESSES OF HUNTLY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as wife.
626. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, father to Mary. Sir Adam Gordon of Gordon.
627. [BURKE'S] GORDON, MARQUESSES OF HUNTLY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, SELF.
628. [Burke's] DUKES, HAMILTON OF ABERCORN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Father to Mary Sir Adam Gordon, Ld of Gordon.
629. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400 ".
630. [BURKE'S] GORDON, MARQUESSES OF HUNTLY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Homildon in 1402.
631. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, Mary dtr of Sir Adam Gordon of Gordon.
632. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]".
633. Ibid. "8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346".
634. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, before 1336.
635. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" 8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346.
636. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, David fitz Walter fitz Gilbert, knight.
637. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" "4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378 ".
638. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, between 1374 and 1378.
639. [Cites The Scots Peerage] SGM Post from KWhitebsi@aol.com, Ahnentafel FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -15 Sep 1998
Cites The Scots Peerage for information therein
From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/09/15
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Adam+Gordon%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=968e5d0d.35fed87c%40aol.com&rnum=5

Complete Post:
"From: KWhitebsi@aol.com (KWhitebsi@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Joneta Keith Which ancestry is Correct???
Date: 1998/09/15
"Here is what I have from The Scots Peerage:

AHNENTAFEL CHART FOR SIR JOHN HAMILTON [OF CADZOW] -
15 Sep 1998
1st GENERATION
1 SIR JOHN HAMILTON [of Cadzow]: m Abt 1388 ; d 14 Sep 1402
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------
2nd GENERATION
2 David HAMILTON: m Abt 1355 ; d Bef 1392
3 Janet KEITH [of Galston]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
3rd GENERATION
4 David Fitz Walter FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1378
6 Sir William KEITH [of Galston]: d 1336 ; Siege of,Stirling
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
4th GENERATION
8 WALTER FITZ GILBERT [of Hamilton]: d Bef 1346
9 MARY GORDON [of Gordon]
12 Robert? DE KEITH [of Galston]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
5th GENERATION
18 Sir Adam GORDON [of Huntly]: d Abt 1400
19 Elizabeth KEITH [Lady of Aboyne]: d 1437
24 Same as individual #304
25 Same as individual #305
38 William KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Abt 1410
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
6th GENERATION
39 Margaret FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
7th GENERATION
76 Sir Edward KEITH [Marischal Of Scotland]: d Bef 1351
77 Isabella SINTON
78 John FRASER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
8th GENERATION

152 Sir William DE KEITH: d Bef 1293
153 Barbara DE SETON
156 Sir Alexander FRASER [High Chamberlain]: m 1316 ; d 1332
Battle Duplin
157 Mary BRUCE: d Bef 22 Sep 1323
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
9th GENERATION
304 Sir John DE KEITH: d Bef 1270
305 Margaret COMYN [of Buchan]
306 Adam DE SETON
312 Andrew FRASER [Lord Saltoun]: d Bef 1306
314 Robert BRUCE [3rd Lord Annandale]: b 1253 ; m 1271 ; d Bef
4 Apr 1304
315 Margaret DE CARRICK [Countess Of Carrick]: d Bef 27 Oct 1292
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------
10th GENERATION
608 Hervey DE KETH: d Bef 1250
610 William COMYN [Earl of Buchan]: d 1233
611 UNKNOWN
624 Sir Richard FRASER [of Touch Fraser]: d Abt 1307
628 Robert The Competitor BRUCE [2nd Lord Annandale]: b 1210 ; m 1240 ; d Bef May 1294
629 Isabel de CLARE [of Gloucester]: b 1226 ; d Aft 1254
630 Neil DE CARRICK [2d Earl Carrick]: b Abt 1220 ; d 1256
631 Margaret STEWART [Carrick]" bef 1378.
640. "THE BARONAGE PRESS, Hamilton of Cadzow [later of Hamilton] to the end of the 16th Century," THE BARONAGE PRESS, electronic magazine, of the genealogical and heraldic data in the archives section, and of general information on the history of the British Isles., http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/hamilton.html, Parent Directory URL http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/, "Margaret dtr of William de Ross, 5th Earl of Ross by whom he had four sons".
641. [Burke's] DUKES, HAMILTON OF ABERCORN, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, dau of William, 7th Earl of Ross (see BURKE's Dormant & Extinct Peerages),.
642. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Turnberry Castle (Writtle, Chelmsford, Essex).
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
643. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 11 July, 1274,.
644. Ibid. 7 June, 1329,.
645. John Watt, viewed 092200, McCurdyL@Rootsweb, kiwi@whidbey.net, Cardross Castle, Firth Of Clyde, Scotland.
646. [Burke's] MAR EARLS OF MAR, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, dtr, wife.
647. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, wife Isobel dau. of Donald, 6th Earl of Mar.
648. SGM post "Stewart Saga-Two" from Leo Van de Pas [Part of a series of five articles]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - TWO
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+two%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213102201.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1
Sources are given in last article of series [Stewart Saga-Five] and are provided from that post below the following text

Complete post reads
"Generation V-1
1.Andrew Stewart

2.Walter Stewart, 6th High Steward of Scotland
born 1292, died 9 April 1327
In 1314 he commanded the left wing of the Scottish
army at the battle of Bannockburn. In 1315 he married
Marjorie Bruce which made him the son-in-law of King
Robert Bruce. In 1316 he was Regent of Scotland during
the absence of Robert the Bruce who had gone to Ireland.
He defended Berwick against the English and, in 1322 with
Douglas, made a raid into Yorkshire and nearly kidnapped
King Edward II. He died on 9 April 1327.
married (1) 1315
Marjorie Bruce, daughter of Robert I The Bruce, King of
Scots, and Isabel of Mar
died 2 March 1316 Paisley, Renfrewshire
married (2)
Isabel Graham, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Graham, of
Dalkeith, and Mary of Strathearn
Children : Generation VI-1

3.Sir John Stewart
killed in battle 1318 Dundalk

4.Sir James Stewart, of Durrisdeer

5.Jill/Egidia Stewart
married Alexander Menzies, of Durisdeer

--------------------------------
Generation V-2
1.Isabel Stewart, Lady of Garlies
died after 15 July 1351
married Thomas Randolph, 1st Earl of Moray,
Regent of Scotland, son of Thomas Randolph, of
Strathdon, Chamberlain of Scotland, and NN Bruce
died 20 July 1332 Musselburgh

2.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Bonkil
died 1319
married NN
Children : Generation VI-2

3.Sir Alan Stewart, of Darnley, Crookston and Dreghorn
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-3

4.Sir Walter Stewart, of Pierston
married NN
Children : Generation VI-4

5.Sir James Stewart, of Pierston
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married NN
Children : Generation VI-5

6.Sir John Stewart, of Daldar
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill

----------------------------
Generation V-3
1.Alan, Earl of Menteith
died before 13 March 1309
married Marjory
Children : Generation VI-6
2.Peter

3.Murdoch, Earl of Menteith
died 12 August 1332 or 19 July 1333

-------------------
Generation V-4
1.Sir Walter Menteith, of Rusky and Kerse

2.Joan Menteith
married (1) circa 1323
Malise, 7th Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Orkney and
Caithness, son of Malise, 6th Earl of Strathearn,
and Egidia/Agnes Comyn
born circa 1275-1280, died circa 1329
married (2)
John Campbell, Earl of Atholl
killed in battle 19 July 1333 Halidon Hill
married (3) contracted 11 July 1339
Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn, son of Sir John
Moray, of Drumsagard, and Mary of Strathearn
killed in battle 17 October 1346 Neville's Cross
married (4) contracted 9 November 1347
William, 5th Earl of Sutherland, son of Kenneth,
4th Earl of Sutherland, and Mary of Mar
died 27 February 1370/June 1371

----------------------------------------

To be continued
Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" Isabel of Mar.
649. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, From: Suzanne Doig Subject: Re: Helen ferch Llywelyn of Mar: ferch which Llywelyn? Date: 1999/04/14 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Helen+ferch+Llywelyn+Fawr&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=3713e0ed.4109233%40news.canterbury.ac.nz.
650. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 2 March, 1315-16, soon after having had issue.
651. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Paisley, Renfrewshire.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
652. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, ca 1295.
653. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Son, husband , father.
654. [Burke's] MARQUESS, DOUGLAS OF QUEENSBERRY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, father to Isabel.
655. [Burkes] CRAWFORD-EARLS CRAWFORD AND BALCARRES, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, father to Elizabeth [Katherine].
656. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart"
657. Detailed References follow. Information from: WW-Person A data base of the higher nobility in Europe, Webpages by hstoyan@informatik.uni-erlangen.de . URL http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/cgi-bin/stoyan/wwp/LANG=engl/?1
Sources cited for Robert II at site:
Sir B.Burke: The Dormant and Extinct Peerage.. London, 1866
Sir B.Burke: A Genealogical History of the Dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire. London, 1866
W.K.v.Isenburg: Europ"aische Stammtafeln, Band II, Tafel 69. Marburg, 1953 (1965)
H.Grote: Stammtafeln.. Leipzig, 1877
D.Schwennicke: Europ"aische Stammtafeln, Vol. III, Tafel 93. Marburg, 198?
A.M.Stokvis: Manuel d'histoire.. Amsterdam, 1966
658. SGM post with citations , detail herein. From: UTZ@aol.com [optimistic Dave] Subject: Earls of Buchan IX-XII
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/07/26
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Earls+of+Buchan+IX-XII&selm=42.8b1840b.26b0539c%40aol.com&rnum=1
Reads" SiR ALEXANDER STEWART, of Badenoch, 4th son of King ROBERT II, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Adam MURE, was recognised, 25 July 1382, as EARL OF BUCHAN [SCT]. His cruel and rapacious character earned him the appropriate name of "The Wolf of Badenoch." He married, on or about 24 July 1382, Eupheme, suojure COUNTESS OF Ross [SCT], widow of Walter LESLIE, who, in her right, was EARL OF ROSS [SCT], and who died 27 February 1381/2. She possessed one half of the lands of the Earldom of Buchan. These (called the Barony of Kynedward) she resigned, and they were regranted by the King, 22 Jul 1382, to her and her husband, who, three days later, is called Earl of Buchan. On 2 November 1389 he was excommunicated for deserting his wife.
She was living 5 September 1394, but died about 1394/,5, leaving issue by her 1st husband. The Earl of Buchan is usually said to have died 24 July 1394, but there seems ground for thinking that he lived till 1405 or 1406. He died s.p. legit., and was buried at Dunkeld. M.I. [CP 2:376]"
659. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, in reference to moira Leitch and descendancy to McCurdy forebears.
660. "Monarchs of Scotland; Stuart Dynasty," http://www.royal-stuarts.org/monarchs.htm, 120900.
661. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html.
662. Thoroughly Sourced by Person at cite, WW-Person A data base of the higher nobility in Europe, http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/ww-person.html, 112900, via Roots-L, march 2, 1315/1316 Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland.
663. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" 2 March 1316 Paisley.
664. Thoroughly Sourced by Person at cite, WW-Person A data base of the higher nobility in Europe, http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/ww-person.html, 112900, via Roots-L, 19 april 1390 Castle Dundonald, Ayrshire, Scotland.
665. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" 19 March 1390 Dundonald Castle.
666. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, date.
667. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" Elizabeth Mure daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie.
668. SGM post with citations , detail herein. From: UTZ@aol.com [optimistic Dave] Subject: Earls of Buchan IX-XII
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/07/26
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Earls+of+Buchan+IX-XII&selm=42.8b1840b.26b0539c%40aol.com&rnum=1
Reads" SiR ALEXANDER STEWART, of Badenoch, 4th son of King ROBERT II, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Adam MURE, was recognised, 25 July 1382, as EARL OF BUCHAN [SCT]. His cruel and rapacious character earned him the appropriate name of "The Wolf of Badenoch." He married, on or about 24 July 1382, Eupheme, suojure COUNTESS OF Ross [SCT], widow of Walter LESLIE, who, in her right, was EARL OF ROSS [SCT], and who died 27 February 1381/2. She possessed one half of the lands of the Earldom of Buchan. These (called the Barony of Kynedward) she resigned, and they were regranted by the King, 22 Jul 1382, to her and her husband, who, three days later, is called Earl of Buchan. On 2 November 1389 he was excommunicated for deserting his wife.
She was living 5 September 1394, but died about 1394/,5, leaving issue by her 1st husband. The Earl of Buchan is usually said to have died 24 July 1394, but there seems ground for thinking that he lived till 1405 or 1406. He died s.p. legit., and was buried at Dunkeld. M.I. [CP 2:376]" Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Adam MURE.
669. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" circa 1355.
670. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, abt 1355.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
671. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, (Papal dispensation 22 Nov 1347) Stuart Earls of Moray.
672. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" circa 1347.
673. Libby, "Descendants of Robert II of Scotland," http://libby.withnall.com/robert/database.htm, accessed 092700, libby@withnall.com, Libby states information is sourced, and that she will send it to me (092700), "1336/1347 Second Ceremony In 1348".
674. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, dtr and wife.
675. [Burke's] HAY EARLS OF ERROLL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, wife to Hay.
676. SGM Post "Stewart Saga-Four" Leo van De Pas author, one of a series of five articles Sources as given for series in part five follow text of part four given below
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - FOUR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Original FormatDate: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+four%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213123706.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1

Post reads
"Generation VII-1
1st marriage
1.Robert III, king of Scots 1390-1406
born circa 1337, died 4 April 1406 Dundonald Castle
In 1388, John, Earl of Carrick, was kicked by a horse
and received an injury which left him lame for life.
When Robert II died in April 1390, he was succeeded
by a semi-invalid who was already over fifty. Carrick
took the name of Robert III as John appeared to have
been an unlucky name for kings.
Between Robert III's accession and his coronation
occurred one of the most notorious outrages ever
committed against the royal authority. On 17 June 1390,
the king's brother, Alexander, "the Wolf of Badenoch",
in pursuit of a feud with the Bishop of Moray, burned
the Cathedral and the town of Elgin with the parish church
and the Maison Dieu Hospital. Robert III and his
councillors made Alexander submit and promise reparations
to the bishop of Moray.
Robert III acknowledged his incapacity by delegating
his authority to his next brother, Robert, Earl of Fife,
who possessed both ability and ambition. However, while
they acted together against their brother, Alexander,
there was rivalry between the king and Robert, Earl of
Fife. After a period, Robert III ousted Fife but, under
his personal rule, law and order deteriorated sharply.
As a result, he appointed his son-and-heir, David, as his
deputy. However, despite a successful beginning, David
made powerful enemies, including his own brother-in-law
and his uncle, the latter imprisoning him in Falkland
Castle where he died, according to a parliamentary enquiry
"through Divine providence and not otherwise". However,
it seems more likely that he was killed on his uncle's
orders.
In 1406, in order to keep him safe from his uncle,
Robert III sent James, his 12-year-old son and heir, to
France. However, James's ship was captured by English
pirates and he spent the next 18 years in captivity.
The news killed Robert III. He had once said, "Bury me
in the midden, and write: "Here lies the worst of kings
and the most wretched of men".
married circa 1366
Annabella Drummond, daughter of Sir John Drummond, of
Stobhall and Mary Montfichet
(children)

2.Walter Stewart, Earl of Fife
died 14 August 1362
married Isabel MacDuff, Countess of Fife, daughter
of Duncan MacDuff, 10th Earl of Fife, and Mary
de Monthermer
died after 12 August 1389
(childless)

3.Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany
born circa 1340, died 3 September 1420 Stirling
In 1361 he became, in right of his wife, Earl of Menteith.
However, in 1371, he became Earl of Fife by which title
he was generally known. In 1388 King Robert II, his
elderly father, had him appointed 'Guardian of the Realm'.
In 1390, after their father's death, Fife's crippled
brother, Robert III, became King of Scots. The latter,
after acknowledging his own incapacity, appointed the
Earl of Fife again guardian of the kingdom. However, when
rivalry ensued between the two brothers, Fife was replaced
by David, the king's eldest son.
In March 1398, with his nephew David, he had an
interview with John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancasterm and other
English commissioners. As a result both the Earl of Fife
and his nephew became the first Dukes ever created in
Scotland. The Earl of Fife became Duke of Albany and his
nephew Duke of Rothesay.
For his complicity in the arrest and imprisonment of
the Duke of Rothesay he received a remission from
Parliament. When his nephew died while imprisoned, the
parliamentary enquiry decided that the death had been
caused by "Divine providence and not otherwise".
In 1406 when his brother died and the heir, James I,
was imprisoned in England, the Duke of Albany was made
Regent of the Kingdom. Albany had been blamed for not
securing the release of James I even though, in 1416,
he was able to ransom his own son. However, it was English
policy which kept James I captive. Several of Albany's
opponents met with sudden, mysterious deaths. However, he
was a clever politician who knew how to win people over
and seemed to have governed well, though being over 65
when he became Regent, and over 80 when he died in 1420.
married (1) 1361
Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith, daughter of
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith, and Mary, Countess
of Menteith
born circa 1339, died circa 1380
married (2) contracted 4 May 1380
Muriella Keith, daughter of Sir William Keith,
Marischal of of Scotland, and Margaret Fraser
died before 1 June 1449
(children)

4.Alexander Stewart "the Wolf of Badenoch", Earl of Buchan
died circa 1405
When the Bishop of Moray excommunicated him for deserting
his wife in favour of his mistress, he burnt the town of
Forres and the Cathedral of Elgin in 1390.
married circa July 1382
Eupheme de Ross, suo jure Countess of Ross, daughter
of William de Ross, 5th Earl of Ross and Mary NN
died circa 20 February 1395
(children)

5.Lady Margaret Stewart
marriage contracted 14 June 1350
Eoin "the Good", Lord of the Isles, High Chief of
Clan Donald, son of Angus 'Og', Lord of the Isles
and Agnes NN
died circa 1387 Ardtonish Castle

6.Lady Marjorie Stewart
died after 6 May 1417
married (1) contracted 11 July 1370
John Dunbar, Earl of Moray, son of George Dunbar,
Earl of Dunbar and March, and Christine Seton
died before 15 February 1392 York
married (2) circa 1403
Sir Alexander Keith, of Grantown

7.Lady Jean Stewart
married (1)
Sir John Keith
died before 27 December 1375
married (2) 1375
Sir John Lyon, of Glamis
killed 4 November 1382
married (3) circa November 1384
Sir James Sandilands, of Calder

8.Lady Isabella Stewart
died circa 1410
married (1) contracted 24 September 1371
James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas, Earl of Mar,
son of William Douglas, 1st Earl of Douglas, and
Lady Margaret Mar, Countess of Mar
born circa 1358
killed in battle circa 14 August 1388 Otterburn
married (2) circa 1390
Sir John Edmonstone

9.Lady Elizabeth Stewart
married before 7 November 1372
Sir Thomas Hay, of Erroll, Constable of Scotland,
son of Sir David Hay, of Erroll and NN Keith
died July 1406

2nd marriage
10.David Stewart, Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Caithness
died before 15 March 1390
Justiciar of Scotland, he was implicated in the plot
that led to King James I's assassination, and was
publicly tortured to death in Edinburgh, his head
crowned with a red-hot iron crown inscribed "the king
of traitors".
married NN Lindsay, daughter of Sir Alexander Lindsay,
of Glenesk and Catherine Stirling, heiress of Glenesk
(children)
11.Walter Stewart, Earl of Caithness, Earl of Athol
executed 26 March 1437 Stirling

12.Lady Egidia Stewart
married 1387
Sir William Douglas, of Nithsdale, son of Archibald
Douglas "the Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas, and NN

13.Lady Katherine Stewart
married 22 February 1375/1380
David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford, son of Sir
Alexander Lindsay, of Glenesk, and Catherine Stirling,
heiress of Glenesk
born circa 1360, died February 1407 Finhaven Castle

illegitimate
(by a)
14.Sir John Stewart "the Black Stewart"
hereditary Sheriff of Bute
mentioned 1385 and 1400
married Jean Semple, daughter of Sir John Semple
(children)
(by b)
15.Alexander Stewart, Canon of Glasgow

16.Alexander Stewart, of Inverlunan

17.James Stewart, of Kinfauns

18.Sir John Stewart, of Dundonald
Keeper of Dunbarton Castle
murdered in 1425

19.Thomas Stewart, Archdeacon of St.Andrews, Dean of Dunkeld

(by c)
20.Sir John Stewart, 1st of Cardney

to be continued

Leo van de Pas"
Sources cited in last article [Stewart Saga-Five]
Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart Lady Elizabeth Stewart.
677. "The GRAYs of Foulis," Sites References: Complete Peerage, Vol. VIII, pp. 464-477; Scots Peerage, Vol. VI, pp. 25-51, Richard W Field rfield@aol.com, http://hometown.aol.com/ttrim36387/gray.html, Copyright © 1997 & 1998, Richard W. Field, Revised August 24, 1998.
678. [Burke's] HAY EARLS OF ERROLL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, SIR THOMAS DE LA HAYE, 7th Feudal Baron of Erroll, Constable of Scotland,.
679. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Husband to Eliz. "Sir Thomas Hay, Ld of Erroll, Constable of Scotland (see ERROLL, E). ".
680. SGM Post "Stewart Saga-Four" Leo van De Pas author, one of a series of five articles Sources as given for series in part five follow text of part four given below
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - FOUR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Original FormatDate: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+four%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213123706.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1

Post reads
"Generation VII-1
1st marriage
1.Robert III, king of Scots 1390-1406
born circa 1337, died 4 April 1406 Dundonald Castle
In 1388, John, Earl of Carrick, was kicked by a horse
and received an injury which left him lame for life.
When Robert II died in April 1390, he was succeeded
by a semi-invalid who was already over fifty. Carrick
took the name of Robert III as John appeared to have
been an unlucky name for kings.
Between Robert III's accession and his coronation
occurred one of the most notorious outrages ever
committed against the royal authority. On 17 June 1390,
the king's brother, Alexander, "the Wolf of Badenoch",
in pursuit of a feud with the Bishop of Moray, burned
the Cathedral and the town of Elgin with the parish church
and the Maison Dieu Hospital. Robert III and his
councillors made Alexander submit and promise reparations
to the bishop of Moray.
Robert III acknowledged his incapacity by delegating
his authority to his next brother, Robert, Earl of Fife,
who possessed both ability and ambition. However, while
they acted together against their brother, Alexander,
there was rivalry between the king and Robert, Earl of
Fife. After a period, Robert III ousted Fife but, under
his personal rule, law and order deteriorated sharply.
As a result, he appointed his son-and-heir, David, as his
deputy. However, despite a successful beginning, David
made powerful enemies, including his own brother-in-law
and his uncle, the latter imprisoning him in Falkland
Castle where he died, according to a parliamentary enquiry
"through Divine providence and not otherwise". However,
it seems more likely that he was killed on his uncle's
orders.
In 1406, in order to keep him safe from his uncle,
Robert III sent James, his 12-year-old son and heir, to
France. However, James's ship was captured by English
pirates and he spent the next 18 years in captivity.
The news killed Robert III. He had once said, "Bury me
in the midden, and write: "Here lies the worst of kings
and the most wretched of men".
married circa 1366
Annabella Drummond, daughter of Sir John Drummond, of
Stobhall and Mary Montfichet
(children)

2.Walter Stewart, Earl of Fife
died 14 August 1362
married Isabel MacDuff, Countess of Fife, daughter
of Duncan MacDuff, 10th Earl of Fife, and Mary
de Monthermer
died after 12 August 1389
(childless)

3.Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany
born circa 1340, died 3 September 1420 Stirling
In 1361 he became, in right of his wife, Earl of Menteith.
However, in 1371, he became Earl of Fife by which title
he was generally known. In 1388 King Robert II, his
elderly father, had him appointed 'Guardian of the Realm'.
In 1390, after their father's death, Fife's crippled
brother, Robert III, became King of Scots. The latter,
after acknowledging his own incapacity, appointed the
Earl of Fife again guardian of the kingdom. However, when
rivalry ensued between the two brothers, Fife was replaced
by David, the king's eldest son.
In March 1398, with his nephew David, he had an
interview with John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancasterm and other
English commissioners. As a result both the Earl of Fife
and his nephew became the first Dukes ever created in
Scotland. The Earl of Fife became Duke of Albany and his
nephew Duke of Rothesay.
For his complicity in the arrest and imprisonment of
the Duke of Rothesay he received a remission from
Parliament. When his nephew died while imprisoned, the
parliamentary enquiry decided that the death had been
caused by "Divine providence and not otherwise".
In 1406 when his brother died and the heir, James I,
was imprisoned in England, the Duke of Albany was made
Regent of the Kingdom. Albany had been blamed for not
securing the release of James I even though, in 1416,
he was able to ransom his own son. However, it was English
policy which kept James I captive. Several of Albany's
opponents met with sudden, mysterious deaths. However, he
was a clever politician who knew how to win people over
and seemed to have governed well, though being over 65
when he became Regent, and over 80 when he died in 1420.
married (1) 1361
Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith, daughter of
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith, and Mary, Countess
of Menteith
born circa 1339, died circa 1380
married (2) contracted 4 May 1380
Muriella Keith, daughter of Sir William Keith,
Marischal of of Scotland, and Margaret Fraser
died before 1 June 1449
(children)

4.Alexander Stewart "the Wolf of Badenoch", Earl of Buchan
died circa 1405
When the Bishop of Moray excommunicated him for deserting
his wife in favour of his mistress, he burnt the town of
Forres and the Cathedral of Elgin in 1390.
married circa July 1382
Eupheme de Ross, suo jure Countess of Ross, daughter
of William de Ross, 5th Earl of Ross and Mary NN
died circa 20 February 1395
(children)

5.Lady Margaret Stewart
marriage contracted 14 June 1350
Eoin "the Good", Lord of the Isles, High Chief of
Clan Donald, son of Angus 'Og', Lord of the Isles
and Agnes NN
died circa 1387 Ardtonish Castle

6.Lady Marjorie Stewart
died after 6 May 1417
married (1) contracted 11 July 1370
John Dunbar, Earl of Moray, son of George Dunbar,
Earl of Dunbar and March, and Christine Seton
died before 15 February 1392 York
married (2) circa 1403
Sir Alexander Keith, of Grantown

7.Lady Jean Stewart
married (1)
Sir John Keith
died before 27 December 1375
married (2) 1375
Sir John Lyon, of Glamis
killed 4 November 1382
married (3) circa November 1384
Sir James Sandilands, of Calder

8.Lady Isabella Stewart
died circa 1410
married (1) contracted 24 September 1371
James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas, Earl of Mar,
son of William Douglas, 1st Earl of Douglas, and
Lady Margaret Mar, Countess of Mar
born circa 1358
killed in battle circa 14 August 1388 Otterburn
married (2) circa 1390
Sir John Edmonstone

9.Lady Elizabeth Stewart
married before 7 November 1372
Sir Thomas Hay, of Erroll, Constable of Scotland,
son of Sir David Hay, of Erroll and NN Keith
died July 1406

2nd marriage
10.David Stewart, Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Caithness
died before 15 March 1390
Justiciar of Scotland, he was implicated in the plot
that led to King James I's assassination, and was
publicly tortured to death in Edinburgh, his head
crowned with a red-hot iron crown inscribed "the king
of traitors".
married NN Lindsay, daughter of Sir Alexander Lindsay,
of Glenesk and Catherine Stirling, heiress of Glenesk
(children)
11.Walter Stewart, Earl of Caithness, Earl of Athol
executed 26 March 1437 Stirling

12.Lady Egidia Stewart
married 1387
Sir William Douglas, of Nithsdale, son of Archibald
Douglas "the Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas, and NN

13.Lady Katherine Stewart
married 22 February 1375/1380
David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford, son of Sir
Alexander Lindsay, of Glenesk, and Catherine Stirling,
heiress of Glenesk
born circa 1360, died February 1407 Finhaven Castle

illegitimate
(by a)
14.Sir John Stewart "the Black Stewart"
hereditary Sheriff of Bute
mentioned 1385 and 1400
married Jean Semple, daughter of Sir John Semple
(children)
(by b)
15.Alexander Stewart, Canon of Glasgow

16.Alexander Stewart, of Inverlunan

17.James Stewart, of Kinfauns

18.Sir John Stewart, of Dundonald
Keeper of Dunbarton Castle
murdered in 1425

19.Thomas Stewart, Archdeacon of St.Andrews, Dean of Dunkeld

(by c)
20.Sir John Stewart, 1st of Cardney

to be continued

Leo van de Pas"
Sources cited in last article [Stewart Saga-Five]
Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart Sir Thomas Hay, of Erroll, Constable of Scotland, son of Sir David Hay, of Erroll and NN Keith.
681. Ibid.
682. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, (charter 7 Nov 1372).
683. [Burke's] HAY EARLS OF ERROLL, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, (charter 7 Nov 1372).
684. [Burke's] HAY MARQUESSES OF TWEEDDALE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, "Alicia, dau of Sir Thomas Hay, of Erroll (see ERROLL, E)".
685. SGM post by Leo Van de Pas with sources for information as noted below
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Re: James Kennedy & Mary Stuart
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/05/31
URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1.5.4.32.19980531065636.00d4a9c4%40mail.iinet.net.au

Sources :
A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and
extinct peerages of the British Empire,
London, 1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage,
Baronetage and Knightage,
London, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry,
1937

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales,
Edinburgh, 1977, by Gerald Paget.

The Complete Peerage,
1936 by H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden Alicia Haye.
686. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, Alicia Hay.
687. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Royal22727 Alice DE LA HAYE.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
688. Ibid. Royal26207 Alicia Hay.
689. [Burke's] HAY MARQUESSES OF TWEEDDALE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, "SIR WILLIAM HAY, of Locherworth and Yester".
690. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Father to Jean: "Sir William Hay, of Lochorwarth" Home of Earls of Home.
691. Ibid. Father to Alice: Hay Earls of Hay "Alice, dau of Sir William Hay of Yester (see TWEEDDALE, M)".
692. SGM post by Leo Van de Pas with sources for information as noted below
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Re: James Kennedy & Mary Stuart
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/05/31
URL: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1.5.4.32.19980531065636.00d4a9c4%40mail.iinet.net.au

Sources :
A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and
extinct peerages of the British Empire,
London, 1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage,
Baronetage and Knightage,
London, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry,
1937

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales,
Edinburgh, 1977, by Gerald Paget.

The Complete Peerage,
1936 by H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden "William (Sir), of Locherworth and Yester HAY".
693. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, 1421 Royal22823 William Of Yester (Sir) HAY died 1421-Tompsett appears to have this entry twice, and the death date is given for ONE of the entries as noted in this footnote.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
694. "The HAY's of Lockerworth," sites Reference: MCS4, Line 41., Richard W Field rfield@aol.com, http://hometown.aol.com/ttrim36387/gray.html.
695. [Burke's] HAY MARQUESSES OF TWEEDDALE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as dtr.
696. [Burke's] HOME EARLS OF HOME, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as wife "Jean dau of Sir William Hay, of Lochorwarth".
697. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, as wife cites William Drummond, Histories of Noble British Families. Microfilm # 0990417, (London, William Pickering, 1846, (Folio) Vol. II, pp. 1-41.), Microfilm # 0990417, page 18.
698. [Burke's] HOME EARLS OF HOME, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Sir Alexander Home.
699. [Burke's] HAY MARQUESSES OF TWEEDDALE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as husband.
700. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, William Drummond, Histories of Noble British Families. Microfilm # 0990417, (London, William Pickering, 1846, (Folio) Vol. II, pp. 1-41.), Microfilm # 0990417, page 18.
701. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Home Earls of Home File.
702. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, cites William Drummond, Histories of Noble British Families. Microfilm # 0990417, (London, William Pickering, 1846, (Folio) Vol. II, pp. 1-41.), Microfilm # 0990417, page 18.
703. "the Erskine Barony," Cites: The Complete Peerage, or a history of the House of Lords and all its memebers from the earliest times. (Except where otherwise{ie footnote page} noted), erskin@zwallet.com, Erskin Clan: http://www.angelfire.com/tn/erskin/gene4.html/ AND the Erskine Barony: http://erskinclan.mygoldclub.com/gene4.html, Part of of The Erskin Clan Website GREAT SITE, Sir ALexander Home of that ilk , son is number 1.
704. [Burke's] HOME EARLS OF HOME, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Alexander, 1st Lord Home.
705. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, cites William Drummond, Histories of Noble British Families Microfilm # 0990417, (London, William Pickering, 1846, (Folio) Vol. II, pp. 1-41.), Microfilm # 0990417.
706. Ibid. 1407.
707. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Home Earls of Home.
708. Ibid. 1st Lord Home.
709. [Burke's] HOME EARLS OF HOME, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Marion no surname, dtr.
710. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Pedigree narrative. Summary outline of the ancestry of Lauder of Fountainhall by G.M.S.Lauder-Frost, F.S.A.,(Scot) http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/Contents/book/scotland/fat/free/lauderdick/Lauderancestryarticle1.asp.
711. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/.
712. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Home Earls of Home family file.
713. Ibid. Home Earls of Home.
714. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 343 Patrick [Sir] of Fastcastle Hume URl http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi?SEC=Some-20Colonial-20Dames-20of-20Royal-20Descent&IN=006802&PN=343&CD=506.
715. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, cites William Drummond, Histories of Noble British Families Microfilm # 0990417, (London, William Pickering, 1846, (Folio) Vol. II, pp. 1-41.), Microfilm # 0990417.
716. "The HOME Family," Reference: Scots Peerage, Vol. IV, pp. 439-481, Richard W Field rfield@aol.com, http://hometown.aol.com/ttrim36387/gray.html.
717. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Home Earls of Home aft 25 Jun 1467.
718. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, shown active 1486.
719. "The HOME Family," Reference: Scots Peerage, Vol. IV, pp. 439-481, Richard W Field rfield@aol.com, http://hometown.aol.com/ttrim36387/gray.html, By 1467.
720. Charles Henry Browning, Pedigrees Showing the Lineal Descent from some members of the National Society of the Colonial Dames of America, and of the Order of the Crown., Part of Ancestry.com collection: Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s., Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1969, Face Sheet states: Charles Henry Browning Member of the American Historical association, society of American Authors, the Historical Society of Pennsylvania, etc., http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi, p 343 URL http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi?SEC=Some-20Colonial-20Dames-20of-20Royal-20Descent&IN=006802&PN=343&CD=506.
721. Ibid.A>
722. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 29/30.
723. William Logan's Will: Philadelphia, Book: Q:378 Date: 25 7 1772 (July 22 1777) Proven 25 11 1776 (Nov 25 1776) : "Remarks: Wm. Logan. Phila. Merchant. 25 July 1772. 25 Nov 1776. Father: James. Wife's Father: Geo. Emlen. Wife: Hannah. Uncle: Dr. Logan of Bristol. Children: James, George, Charles, Sarah Fisher. Brother in law: John Smith. Grandson of late son Dr. Wm. Logan; daughter in law Sarah Logan, widow of said son Wm.; Brother James; Mary, daughter of sister Sarah Norris; James, Hannah and John, children of sister Hannah Smith; Mary Houlton, Housekeeper; Catherine Philips, formerly Smith, and Ann Deborah, Nurses; --- Rothwell, wife of Henry Rothwell, Shoemaker; Sophia Fielding; the Monthly Meeting Women's Friends, for the poor; the Penn. Hospital; the Logan Library and the Phila. Library. Execs. and Trustees: brother James, cousin James Pemberton and son in law Thos. Fisher. Q:378."
Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1819
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=philpa1682&cres=33;39%2c34;299%2c35;278%2c36;17%2c37;25%2c38;14%2c39;36%2c40;8%2c41;3%2c42;369%2cssdi;52%2cgenepool;146%2cpallotm;10%2cbgmi;1%2cpersi;11%2cirishfam;8%2c&prox=1&ti=0&gsfn=sarah+&gsln=logan&gspl=1%2cany+locality&submit=search&gss=angs&GS=LOGAN+SARAH father James.
724. "ES= Europäische Stammtafel," Schwennicke, Detlev, http://habitant.org/tools/esnotes.htm, [European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series.]  , First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven. 16 vols.  Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt , 1978-1995.  .
725. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, page 24.
726. The Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1750-1930, covers all meetings, Compiled from Quaker Monthly Meetings, William Wade Hinshaw, Originally published by The Geneological Publishing Company, Genforum library, http://www.genealogy.com/ifa/co_cd192.html, "The records of the Society of Friends are perhaps the most complete of all church records; few happenings went unrecorded.", p 390 "James, d 9-2-1751" I am assuming this is he {These Quaker records do NOT correspond to our normal months].
727. Full Context of Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania, 1733-1776. "James Logan died at Stenton , Dec. 31, 1751 , bu. Friends' ground in Phila. He m. 10, 9, 1714 , Sarah , sister of Charles Read , the Councillor." http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&ct=3105.
728. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 30 Sarah Reed.
729. The Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1750-1930, covers all meetings, Compiled from Quaker Monthly Meetings, William Wade Hinshaw, Originally published by The Geneological Publishing Company, Genforum library, http://www.genealogy.com/ifa/co_cd192.html, "The records of the Society of Friends are perhaps the most complete of all church records; few happenings went unrecorded.", p 584, 1714, 10, 9. James, Phila pa, m Sarah Read, dt Charles, Phila, Pa, at Phila, MH".
730. Sarah Reed Logan's Will abstract
LOGAN, SARAH. City of Philadelphia.
4 mo. 8, 1754. July 27, 1754. K.186.
Children: William, James and Hannah wife of John Smith.
Brother-in-Law: Dr. William Logan of Bristol, England.
Granddaughters: Sarah and Mary Norris. Sisters: Rachel Pemberton and
Sarah Read. Beneficiaries: Sarah Morris in trust for the use of the
Women's Meeting in Philadelphia and Ann Cross.
Exec: Son-in-law John Smith, and sons William and James.
Wit: Jonah Thompson, Sarah Morris, Joyce Benezet.

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http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm self-please note the sister Sarah Reed mentioned in this will abstract appears confusing; See Footnote detail in which abstract is evident.
731. The Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1750-1930, covers all meetings, Compiled from Quaker Monthly Meetings, William Wade Hinshaw, Originally published by The Geneological Publishing Company, Genforum library, http://www.genealogy.com/ifa/co_cd192.html, "The records of the Society of Friends are perhaps the most complete of all church records; few happenings went unrecorded.", p 390 "Sarah, died 5-16-1754".
732. Sarah Reed Logan's Will abstract
LOGAN, SARAH. City of Philadelphia.
4 mo. 8, 1754. July 27, 1754. K.186.
Children: William, James and Hannah wife of John Smith.
Brother-in-Law: Dr. William Logan of Bristol, England.
Granddaughters: Sarah and Mary Norris. Sisters: Rachel Pemberton and
Sarah Read. Beneficiaries: Sarah Morris in trust for the use of the
Women's Meeting in Philadelphia and Ann Cross.
Exec: Son-in-law John Smith, and sons William and James.
Wit: Jonah Thompson, Sarah Morris, Joyce Benezet.

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733. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, page 29 9 Dec 1714.
734. Sarah Reed Logan's Will abstract
LOGAN, SARAH. City of Philadelphia.
4 mo. 8, 1754. July 27, 1754. K.186.
Children: William, James and Hannah wife of John Smith.
Brother-in-Law: Dr. William Logan of Bristol, England.
Granddaughters: Sarah and Mary Norris. Sisters: Rachel Pemberton and
Sarah Read. Beneficiaries: Sarah Morris in trust for the use of the
Women's Meeting in Philadelphia and Ann Cross.
Exec: Son-in-law John Smith, and sons William and James.
Wit: Jonah Thompson, Sarah Morris, Joyce Benezet.

Wills: Abstracts, Book K: 1752 - 1757: Philadelphia Co, PA

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http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm son William [co executor].
735. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 31/p30.
736. Will abstract William Logan
"LOGAN, WM. Phila. Merchant.
July 25, 1772. November 25, 1776.
Father: James. Wife's Father: Geo. Emlen.
Wife: Hannah. Uncle: Dr. Logan of Bristol.
Children: James, George, Charles, Sarah Fisher.
Brother in law: John Smith.
Grandson of late son Dr. Wm. Logan;
daughter in law Sarah Logan (widow of said son Wm.);
brother James; Mary (daughter of sister Sarah Norris);
James, Hannah and John (children of sister Hannah Smith);
Mary Houlton, Housekeeper; Catherine Philips, formerly Smith, and Ann Deborah, Nurses;
---- Rothwell (wife of Henry Rothwell), Shoemaker; Sophia Fielding;
the Monthly Meeting Women's Friends, for the poor; the Penn. Hospital;
the Logan Library and the Phila. Library.
Execs. and Trustees: brother James, cousin James Pemberton
and son in law Thos. Fisher.
Wit: Samuel, Jr., and Israel Morris, Jr. and Edward Middleton. Q.378."


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NOTE: All contributions welcomed. Full copies of wills gladly added.

NOTE: Dates are will written and will proved.

In some will books the dates overlap.

Alpha Index thanks to Vince..... NOTE: some pages numbers added if not abstracted
to aid in location of the will abstract.... his will names his father, his wife, his wife's father, his uncle, and children.
737. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 30 14 Jul 1718.
738. Full Context of Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania, 1733-1776. 5mo., 14, 1718 http://searchsouth.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?&db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&gss=angs&ct=3115.
739. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, 29 Oct 1776 "Stenton" the family manor, Phila., Penna.
740. Full Context of Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania, 1733-1776. 28 Oct 1776 as per obit cited.
741. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 31.
742. William Logan's Will: Philadelphia, Book: Q:378 Date: 25 7 1772 (July 22 1777) Proven 25 11 1776 (Nov 25 1776) : "Remarks: Wm. Logan. Phila. Merchant. 25 July 1772. 25 Nov 1776. Father: James. Wife's Father: Geo. Emlen. Wife: Hannah. Uncle: Dr. Logan of Bristol. Children: James, George, Charles, Sarah Fisher. Brother in law: John Smith. Grandson of late son Dr. Wm. Logan; daughter in law Sarah Logan, widow of said son Wm.; Brother James; Mary, daughter of sister Sarah Norris; James, Hannah and John, children of sister Hannah Smith; Mary Houlton, Housekeeper; Catherine Philips, formerly Smith, and Ann Deborah, Nurses; --- Rothwell, wife of Henry Rothwell, Shoemaker; Sophia Fielding; the Monthly Meeting Women's Friends, for the poor; the Penn. Hospital; the Logan Library and the Phila. Library. Execs. and Trustees: brother James, cousin James Pemberton and son in law Thos. Fisher. Q:378."
Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1819
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=philpa1682&cres=33;39%2c34;299%2c35;278%2c36;17%2c37;25%2c38;14%2c39;36%2c40;8%2c41;3%2c42;369%2cssdi;52%2cgenepool;146%2cpallotm;10%2cbgmi;1%2cpersi;11%2cirishfam;8%2c&prox=1&ti=0&gsfn=sarah+&gsln=logan&gspl=1%2cany+locality&submit=search&gss=angs&GS=LOGAN+SARAH wife Hannah.
743. Hannah (Emlen) Logan's Will. Philadelphia. Book: Q:395 Date: 1Jan 29, 1777 Proven: Feb 11, 1777
"Remarks: Hannah Logan. 29 Jan 1777. 11 Feb 1777. Children: Charles, George and Sarah Fisher, daughter in law Sarah Logan. Grandson: Wm. Portsmouth Logan. Friends: Rebekah Jones; Ann Widdowfield; Susannah Lightfoot, wife of Thomas, and her daughter Susannah; Mary Hollon; Margaret Porter, wife of Wm.; Elizabeth Davis; Mary Norris; Lettitia Rees; Mary, kitchen maid; Elizabeth Scott; Mary Armit, Susannah Jones, Ann Warner, Rebekah Jones, Sarah Lewis and Ann Hollowell, in trust for the Monthly Meeting of Phila. Execs.: son in law Thos. Fisher and Owen Jones. Q:395."
Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1819
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=philpa1682&cres=33;39%2c34;299%2c35;278%2c36;17%2c37;25%2c38;14%2c39;36%2c40;8%2c41;3%2c42;369%2cssdi;52%2cgenepool;146%2cpallotm;10%2cbgmi;1%2cpersi;11%2cirishfam;8%2c&prox=1&ti=0&gsfn=sarah+&gsln=logan&gspl=1%2cany+locality&submit=search&gss=angs&GS=LOGAN+SARAH Self.
744. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, page 31.
745. John W. Jordan, Colonial Families of Philadelphia, New York: The Lewis Publishing Company, 1911, Viewable via Genforum paid library subscription, Call Number: R929.2 qC719, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/5581_i.html, p 192 4mo. 1, 1722.
746. Full Context of Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania, 1733-1776. "He m. Mch. 24, 1740 , Hannah , dau. of George Emlen of Phila. She was b. June 1, 1722 , and d. Jany. 30, 1777 ."http://searchsouth.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?&db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&gss=angs&ct=3115.
747. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, page 31 24 Mar 1740.
748. John W. Jordan, Colonial Families of Philadelphia, New York: The Lewis Publishing Company, 1911, Viewable via Genforum paid library subscription, Call Number: R929.2 qC719, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/5581_i.html, p 92 1mo. 24, 1740 p 92 at Philadelphia Meeting.
749. Hannah (Emlen) Logan's Will. Philadelphia. Book: Q:395 Date: 1Jan 29, 1777 Proven: Feb 11, 1777
"Remarks: Hannah Logan. 29 Jan 1777. 11 Feb 1777. Children: Charles, George and Sarah Fisher, daughter in law Sarah Logan. Grandson: Wm. Portsmouth Logan. Friends: Rebekah Jones; Ann Widdowfield; Susannah Lightfoot, wife of Thomas, and her daughter Susannah; Mary Hollon; Margaret Porter, wife of Wm.; Elizabeth Davis; Mary Norris; Lettitia Rees; Mary, kitchen maid; Elizabeth Scott; Mary Armit, Susannah Jones, Ann Warner, Rebekah Jones, Sarah Lewis and Ann Hollowell, in trust for the Monthly Meeting of Phila. Execs.: son in law Thos. Fisher and Owen Jones. Q:395."
Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1819
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=philpa1682&cres=33;39%2c34;299%2c35;278%2c36;17%2c37;25%2c38;14%2c39;36%2c40;8%2c41;3%2c42;369%2cssdi;52%2cgenepool;146%2cpallotm;10%2cbgmi;1%2cpersi;11%2cirishfam;8%2c&prox=1&ti=0&gsfn=sarah+&gsln=logan&gspl=1%2cany+locality&submit=search&gss=angs&GS=LOGAN+SARAH Mentioned in his mother's will as Son Charles.
750. William Logan's Will: Philadelphia, Book: Q:378 Date: 25 7 1772 (July 22 1777) Proven 25 11 1776 (Nov 25 1776) : "Remarks: Wm. Logan. Phila. Merchant. 25 July 1772. 25 Nov 1776. Father: James. Wife's Father: Geo. Emlen. Wife: Hannah. Uncle: Dr. Logan of Bristol. Children: James, George, Charles, Sarah Fisher. Brother in law: John Smith. Grandson of late son Dr. Wm. Logan; daughter in law Sarah Logan, widow of said son Wm.; Brother James; Mary, daughter of sister Sarah Norris; James, Hannah and John, children of sister Hannah Smith; Mary Houlton, Housekeeper; Catherine Philips, formerly Smith, and Ann Deborah, Nurses; --- Rothwell, wife of Henry Rothwell, Shoemaker; Sophia Fielding; the Monthly Meeting Women's Friends, for the poor; the Penn. Hospital; the Logan Library and the Phila. Library. Execs. and Trustees: brother James, cousin James Pemberton and son in law Thos. Fisher. Q:378."
Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania Wills, 1682-1819
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=philpa1682&cres=33;39%2c34;299%2c35;278%2c36;17%2c37;25%2c38;14%2c39;36%2c40;8%2c41;3%2c42;369%2cssdi;52%2cgenepool;146%2cpallotm;10%2cbgmi;1%2cpersi;11%2cirishfam;8%2c&prox=1&ti=0&gsfn=sarah+&gsln=logan&gspl=1%2cany+locality&submit=search&gss=angs&GS=LOGAN+SARAH Son Charles.
751. Will of James Logan died 1803. book 1:137 Date: 31 12 1799 (Dec 31 1799) Date Proven: 15 10 1803 (Oct 15 1803)
Will abstract :
"Remarks: James Logan. City of Philadelphia. Legacy to friends Nicholas Waln, John Cox and Thomas Fisher for use of public school at Weston, Chester Co., under care of Yearly Meeting of Friends at Philadelphia, Penna. and New Jersey. Legacy to Penna. Hospital. Nieces: Sarah Dickinson and her sister Maria. Nephew: George Logan's wife, Deborah. Late Uncle Logan of Bristol, England. Niece: Susannah Emlen, late Dillwyn. Mentions William Savery, Arthur Howell and Peter Barker. Legacy for use of poor belonging to Monthly Meetings of Friends in Philadelphia. James Logan, son of nephew Charles Logan, decd. Land in Nantnell Township, Chester Co. Nephew: George Logan's children. Children of nephew Charles Logan. Children of niece Sarah Fisher, decd. James Smith. Nephew: John Smith, brother of James, their nieces Susannah Emlen and Hannah Cox. Exec: Friends Nicholas Waln, John Thompson and James Smith."

[another source has this will indexed LOGAN, JAMES. City of Phila. April 29, 1805. 1.320.]

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=philpa1682&cres=33;22%2c34;320%2c35;341%2c36;22%2c37;95%2c38;9%2c39;118%2c40;3%2c41;4%2c42;109%2cssdi;279%2cgenepool;28%2chdssoldiers;25%2ccvwrmr;41%2cbgmi;6%2cpersi;3%2cirishfam;1%2c&gsfn=charles&gsln=logan&sx=&submit=search&gsco=1&gspl=1%2cnot+available&year=&yearr=0&prox=1&yeart=a&ti=0&gs=logan+charles&gss=angs mentioned as deceased Nephew; son James mentioned, "Children of Charles" mentioned.
752. The Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1750-1930, covers all meetings, Compiled from Quaker Monthly Meetings, William Wade Hinshaw, Originally published by The Geneological Publishing Company, Genforum library, http://www.genealogy.com/ifa/co_cd192.html, "The records of the Society of Friends are perhaps the most complete of all church records; few happenings went unrecorded.", p 584 "1779, 7, 8 Charles, s Wm & Hannah, Phila., Pa., m Mary Pleasant, dt John & Mary, late of Henrico Co., Va., at High St Mtg, Phila'.
753. from  The Provincial Conncillors
Charles Logan Entry [see below] from  The Provincial Conncillors from 1733 to 1776.
Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Original data: Charles P. Keith., The Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania who held office between 1733-1776, and Those Earlier Councillors who were some time Chief Magistrates of the Province, and their descendants. Philadelphia, PA: 1883.
Ancestry.com library specific URL
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?&db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&gss=angs&ct=3255 and continued pages
Entry reads:
"Charles Logan , son of William Logan the Councillor, see p. Powhattan Co., Virginia , d. Va. 1794 , m. F.M. 7, 8, 1779 Mary Pleasants . Charles Logan and Mary Pleasants on their marriage set free all their slaves in Virginia , more than fifty in number.
Issue:
James , of Phila. , merchant, lost at sea, will probat. Apr. 29, 1805 , d. s. p.,
Sarah Pleasants , m. James Carter M. D., see below,
Maria Virginia , m. 1st Robert Woodson , and 2d William F. Carter , see p. 26,
Harriet , m. 1st John St. John , and 2d David Howard , see p. 27,
Juliana , m. Neil McCoull , see p. 27,
Issue:
James , d. 12, 19, 1866 , d. s. p.,
Charles , d. y.,
Sally Robeson , m. James S. Newbold of Phila. , broker, who d. Apr. 6, 1877 ,
Issue (surname Newbold ):
James Logan ,
Sallie Logan ,
Anne ,
Robeson , d. y.,
William De Lancey ."
754. "An Historical Genealogical Account of Andrew Robeson", Susan Stroud Robeson ASSISTED BY CAROLINE FRANCISCUS STROUD, COMPILED, EDITED AND PUBLISHED DY KATE HAMILTON OSBORNE, Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott Company, 1916., Call Number: R929.2 R65 GenforumLibrary Collection on line, Family Books., An account of Andrew Robeson of Scotland, New Jersey and Pennsylvania and of his descendants from 1653 to 1916., http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5834/5834_i.html, p 26.
755. Edward Carpenter, Samuel Carpenter and His Descendants, J. B. Lippincott Co., Philadelphia 1912., Call Number: CS71.C3x, Genforum Library, "Originaly from England, the Carpenter family settled in Philadephia. About 6000 names included. ", p 221.
756. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 31 1794 Virginia.
757. Abstracts from 18th-Century Virginia Newspapers, Surnames O-P, Page 210.
"Logan, Charles, d. Thurs eve last at his seat in Powhatan Co. (VGRMA 10 July 94); e.a.w. his admx., Mary LOGAN, and amdr., Goodrich CRUMP, who will also sell his PE (VGRMA 26 Jan, 12 mar 95); e.a.w. his admx., Mary PLEASANTS, and his admr., Robert C PLEASANTS (RMA 11 june 96) "
GenforumLibrary
http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi July 1794 (announcement 10 July) Powhatan, Va.
758. from  The Provincial Conncillors
Charles Logan Entry [see below] from  The Provincial Conncillors from 1733 to 1776.
Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Original data: Charles P. Keith., The Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania who held office between 1733-1776, and Those Earlier Councillors who were some time Chief Magistrates of the Province, and their descendants. Philadelphia, PA: 1883.
Ancestry.com library specific URL
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?&db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&gss=angs&ct=3255 and continued pages
Entry reads:
"Charles Logan , son of William Logan the Councillor, see p. Powhattan Co., Virginia , d. Va. 1794 , m. F.M. 7, 8, 1779 Mary Pleasants . Charles Logan and Mary Pleasants on their marriage set free all their slaves in Virginia , more than fifty in number.
Issue:
James , of Phila. , merchant, lost at sea, will probat. Apr. 29, 1805 , d. s. p.,
Sarah Pleasants , m. James Carter M. D., see below,
Maria Virginia , m. 1st Robert Woodson , and 2d William F. Carter , see p. 26,
Harriet , m. 1st John St. John , and 2d David Howard , see p. 27,
Juliana , m. Neil McCoull , see p. 27,
Issue:
James , d. 12, 19, 1866 , d. s. p.,
Charles , d. y.,
Sally Robeson , m. James S. Newbold of Phila. , broker, who d. Apr. 6, 1877 ,
Issue (surname Newbold ):
James Logan ,
Sallie Logan ,
Anne ,
Robeson , d. y.,
William De Lancey ." Va. 1794.
759. see bio Charles Logan attached in multimedia and from
Family History: Lineages of Hereditary Society Members, 1600s-1900s

Some Colonial Dames of Royal Descent, Pedigree LXXXIV, Page 346
http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi?SEC=Some-20Colonial-20Dames-20of-20Royal-20Descent&IN=006804&PN=345&CD=506A>
760. The Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1750-1930, covers all meetings, Compiled from Quaker Monthly Meetings, William Wade Hinshaw, Originally published by The Geneological Publishing Company, Genforum library, http://www.genealogy.com/ifa/co_cd192.html, "The records of the Society of Friends are perhaps the most complete of all church records; few happenings went unrecorded.", p 584 "mary Pleasants"---"1779, 7, 8 Charles, s Wm & Hannah, Phila., Pa., m Mary Pleasant, dt John & Mary, late of Henrico Co., Va., at High St Mtg, Phila".
761. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 31 Mary PLEASANTS.
762. "An Historical Genealogical Account of Andrew Robeson", Susan Stroud Robeson ASSISTED BY CAROLINE FRANCISCUS STROUD, COMPILED, EDITED AND PUBLISHED DY KATE HAMILTON OSBORNE, Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott Company, 1916., Call Number: R929.2 R65 GenforumLibrary Collection on line, Family Books., An account of Andrew Robeson of Scotland, New Jersey and Pennsylvania and of his descendants from 1653 to 1916., http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5834/5834_i.html, p 26 Mary PLEASANTS.
763. Edward Carpenter, Samuel Carpenter and His Descendants, J. B. Lippincott Co., Philadelphia 1912., Call Number: CS71.C3x, Genforum Library, "Originaly from England, the Carpenter family settled in Philadephia. About 6000 names included. ", p 221 Mary PLEASANTS.
764. "Link to source on Web:," reads: CARTER - Looking for any information on Henry F Carter married to Mary Thompson, if any one knows anything about there children please let me know . It would be greatly appreciated GCarter@aol.com, IGI match (mormon search) Mary H Pleasants.
765. Webpages of Peggy Hooper hooperhous@earthlink.net, "My Roots - Peggy Hooper," http://www.gencircles.com/users/peggy/3/, Beautiful cite, many primary sources, sources for individual entries not really sourced but seem substantiated by primary sources in other locations in website, http://www.gencircles.com/users/peggy/3/data/11953.
766. Ibid. "Mary Pleasants, daughter of John Pleasants and Mary Woodson" No other info. http://www.gencircles.com/users/peggy/3/data/15225.
767. [See full context below]
The Valentine Papers, Vol 1-4, 1864-1908, Pleasants Family, Chancery Causes (Originial Papers).
[Ancestry.com. Valentine Papers (Virginia), Vol. 1-4, 1864-1908. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Original data: Edward P. Valentine,The Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers, Vol. 1-4, 1864-1908.Richmond, VA: The Valentine Museum., circa 19xx]

Full Context
URL http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=valentinepapers&ti=0&ct=7918
"Robert Pleasants of Henrico Co., Va. , brother & executor of Jonathan Pleasants of Henrico Co., Va. , who died in May 1776 , leaving a will dated May 11, 1776 ; said Jonathan was the brother in full blood of Mary Pleasants and of Thomas Pleasants , who died intestate in December 1775 , on whose estate said Jonathan administered. The mother of Thomas , Jonathan and Mary Pleasants was Mary Woodson sister of Tarleton Woodson , who died intestate leaving Charles Woodson formerly of Henrico Co. now of Powhatan Co. , his eldest brother and heir-at-law, who obtained letters of administration on said Tarleton Woodsoh 's estate. Recites that Thomas , Jonathan and Mary Pleasants were entitled collectively to 1/5 and individually to 1/15 of their Uncle Tarleton Woodson 's estate.

John Pleasants , Came before me (one of the Justices of the Peace for said Co. of Henrico ) Robert Pleasants and solemnly affirmed that the within complaint as far as he knows or believes is just and true. Given under my hand this 21 day of Oct., 1780 . John Pleasants .
Virginia , March 1, 1780 .

I desire thou wilt pay or cause to be paid unto Robert Pleasants or his order on demand all moneys which now are or hereafter may be due to me in right of my wife Mary from the estate of her uncle Tarleton Woodson , decd. and his receipt shall be thy discharge for the same and oblige. Thy friend &c., Charles Logan ."942 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=valentinepapers&ti=0&ct=7918.
768. The Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1750-1930, covers all meetings, Compiled from Quaker Monthly Meetings, William Wade Hinshaw, Originally published by The Geneological Publishing Company, Genforum library, http://www.genealogy.com/ifa/co_cd192.html, "The records of the Society of Friends are perhaps the most complete of all church records; few happenings went unrecorded.", p 584 1779, 7, 8 Charles, s Wm & Hannah, Phila., Pa., m Mary Pleasant, dt John & Mary, late of Henrico Co., Va., at High St Mtg, Phila " of Henrico Co., Va".
769. 18th Century Virginia Newspapers, page 267 (Genforum library)
"Pleasants, Mrs. Mary, consort of Robert C. V, d at Belle Meade, Powhatan Co., on the 13th inst. (ARG 26 feb 99)
770. The Encyclopedia of Quaker Genealogy, 1750-1930, covers all meetings, Compiled from Quaker Monthly Meetings, William Wade Hinshaw, Originally published by The Geneological Publishing Company, Genforum library, http://www.genealogy.com/ifa/co_cd192.html, "The records of the Society of Friends are perhaps the most complete of all church records; few happenings went unrecorded.", p 584 "1779, 7, 8 Charles, s Wm & Hannah, Phila., Pa., m Mary Pleasant, dt John & Mary, late of Henrico Co., Va., at High St Mtg, Phila".
771. from  The Provincial Conncillors
Charles Logan Entry [see below] from  The Provincial Conncillors from 1733 to 1776.
Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Original data: Charles P. Keith., The Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania who held office between 1733-1776, and Those Earlier Councillors who were some time Chief Magistrates of the Province, and their descendants. Philadelphia, PA: 1883.
Ancestry.com library specific URL
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?&db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&gss=angs&ct=3255 and continued pages
Entry reads:
"Charles Logan , son of William Logan the Councillor, see p. Powhattan Co., Virginia , d. Va. 1794 , m. F.M. 7, 8, 1779 Mary Pleasants . Charles Logan and Mary Pleasants on their marriage set free all their slaves in Virginia , more than fifty in number.
Issue:
James , of Phila. , merchant, lost at sea, will probat. Apr. 29, 1805 , d. s. p.,
Sarah Pleasants , m. James Carter M. D., see below,
Maria Virginia , m. 1st Robert Woodson , and 2d William F. Carter , see p. 26,
Harriet , m. 1st John St. John , and 2d David Howard , see p. 27,
Juliana , m. Neil McCoull , see p. 27,
Issue:
James , d. 12, 19, 1866 , d. s. p.,
Charles , d. y.,
Sally Robeson , m. James S. Newbold of Phila. , broker, who d. Apr. 6, 1877 ,
Issue (surname Newbold ):
James Logan ,
Sallie Logan ,
Anne ,
Robeson , d. y.,
William De Lancey ." m. F.M. 7, 8, 1779 Mary Pleasants.
772. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, Page 32 Harriet M Howard.
773. Database: Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850
Groom Given Name Groom Surname Bride Given name Bride Surname Marriage Date County
JOHN STJOHN HARRIET LOGAN 02 June 1808 Richmond harriet howard.
774. Will abstract James Logan (Son of Charles, Died 1805) : Philadelphia, PA   Book Page 1:320    Date 1804 Date Proven: 29 4 1805
Abstract Reads: "Remarks: James Logan. City of Philadelphia. Merchant. Legacies to sisters Sarah P. Carter, wife of Dr. James Carter of Goochland Co. in Virginia, Maria Woodson, wife of Robert H. Woodson and Julia Logan, both of Goodland Co., Virginia and to Harriet Logan of Philadelphia. Rem. of estate to his bro. Charles Franklin Logan. Exec: Thomas Fisher, Samuel Pleasants and George Logan."
Ancestry.com record search.


[another source has this will indexed LOGAN, JAMES. City of Phila. April 29, 1805. 1.320.] harriet howard.
775. Harriet Logan Entry from Full Context of Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania, 1733-1776. Those Earlier Councillors Who were some time Chief Magistrates of the Province, and their Descendants
 The Provincial Conncillors from 1733 to 1776.
Ancestry.com library
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&ct=3365

"Harriet Logan , dau. of Charles and Mary Logan , p. 24, d. in Virginia , m., 1st., John St. John , a gentleman from Ireland , and, 2nd, David Howard .
Issue by 1st husband (surname St. John ):
John , lived in Georgia , d. s. p. aged 24,
Issue by 2nd husband (surname Howard ):
James Logan , of Texas ,
David , of Texas ,
Mary , of Texas ."
776. 40,000$ Bond by Executor Estate of Charles Logan
Valentine Papers (Virginia), Vol. 1-4, 1864-1908
"James Carter , bond of as Executor of Charles Logan 's estate, Samuel Pleasants , Isaac W. Pleasants and William Pope his securities. The orphans of Charles Logan mentioned are Harriet , Maria , Julia & Franklin Logan . The bond is for $40,000. Samuel Pleasants & James Pleasants , bond of as Executors of Charles Logan , decd. estate. Bond for $20,000. Orphans of Charles Logan named in bond James , Sarah , Maria , Harriet , Julia & Charles Franklin Logan . Jan. 21, 1801 . W. B. 2, p. 25."

Ancestry.com. Valentine Papers (Virginia), Vol. 1-4, 1864-1908. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Original data: Edward P. Valentine,The Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers, Vol. 1-4, 1864-1908.Richmond, VA: The Valentine Museum., circa 19xx

URL http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=valentinepapers&ti=0&ct=7547 Orphans of Charles Logan named in bond James , Sarah , Maria , Harriet , Julia & Charles Franklin Logan .
777. Harriet Logan Entry from Full Context of Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania, 1733-1776. Those Earlier Councillors Who were some time Chief Magistrates of the Province, and their Descendants
 The Provincial Conncillors from 1733 to 1776.
Ancestry.com library
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&ct=3365

"Harriet Logan , dau. of Charles and Mary Logan , p. 24, d. in Virginia , m., 1st., John St. John , a gentleman from Ireland , and, 2nd, David Howard .
Issue by 1st husband (surname St. John ):
John , lived in Georgia , d. s. p. aged 24,
Issue by 2nd husband (surname Howard ):
James Logan , of Texas ,
David , of Texas ,
Mary , of Texas ." death in virginia no date.// The date is based on her legal transactions with Texas, from Richmond, related to land of dtr mary Jane.
778. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 32.
779. Database: Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850
Groom Given Name Groom Surname Bride Given name Bride Surname Marriage Date County
JOHN STJOHN HARRIET LOGAN 02 June 1808 Richmond
780. Harriet Logan Entry from Full Context of Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania, 1733-1776. Those Earlier Councillors Who were some time Chief Magistrates of the Province, and their Descendants
 The Provincial Conncillors from 1733 to 1776.
Ancestry.com library
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&ct=3365

"Harriet Logan , dau. of Charles and Mary Logan , p. 24, d. in Virginia , m., 1st., John St. John , a gentleman from Ireland , and, 2nd, David Howard .
Issue by 1st husband (surname St. John ):
John , lived in Georgia , d. s. p. aged 24,
Issue by 2nd husband (surname Howard ):
James Logan , of Texas ,
David , of Texas ,
Mary , of Texas ." "a gentleman from Ireland ".
781. John W. Jordan, Colonial Families of Philadelphia, New York: The Lewis Publishing Company, 1911, Viewable via Genforum paid library subscription, Call Number: R929.2 qC719, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/5581_i.html, p 32 "of Virginia".
782. Virginia Marriage Records. Jan 1 1815-Dec 31 1815. Feb 21 1815 URL http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/MVA1815.html. Part of Virginia and New York Genealogy. http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/index.html. Maintained by frmrnyr@aol.com. A Free site, with much data, not always informing of original source record. Huge compiled data base. mentioned as the widow of John St John at time of her marriage.
783. Database: Virginia Marriages, 1740-1850
Groom Given Name Groom Surname Bride Given name Bride Surname Marriage Date County
JOHN STJOHN HARRIET LOGAN 02 June 1808 Richmond 2 Jun 1808 Richmond, Va [Records of Hustings Court].
784. Virginia Vital Records #1, 1600s-1800s
Virginia Marriage Records, Marriage Bonds from Records of Hustings Court, Richmond, Va., Page 540
John St John and Harriett Logan, Henrico
15 Aug 1804
http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi?IN=001621&PN=540&SEC=Virginia%20Marriage%20Records&CD=174 Marriage Bond Henrico dated 14 Aug 1804-.
785. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, no date, p 32.
786. Family records, research in Henderson Texas, File at Henderson Local Library, Interview with Doris Digg Osborne, passed down family notes from Mary Howard Swope rec'd of Rusk County Historical Society Texas
787. Hannah Logan Entry [See below] from Full Context of Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania, 1733-1776. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2002. Original data: Charles P. Keith., The Provincial Councillors of Pennsylvania who held office between 1733-1776, and Those Earlier Councillors who were some time Chief Magistrates of the Province, and their descendants. Philadelphia, PA: 1883.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?&db=provincialcouncilors&ti=0&gss=angs&ct=3385

Entry Reads
"Hannah Logan , b. 12, 21, 1719-20 , dau. of James Logan the Councillor, was a preacher among Friends, d. Phila. Dec. 18, 1761 , m. at Germantown Meeting 10, 7, 1748 , John Smith (see "The Burlington Smiths "), then of Phila. , merchant, chief projector and for many years Treasurer of the insurance company known as the "Philadelphia Contributionship," also some time Secretary of the Penna. Hospital and member of Assembly. Removing to Burlington Co., New Jersey , he became a member of the Governor's Council of that Province. He bought Gov. William Franklin 's seat, "Franklin Park." He was author of "The Doctrine of Christianity, as held by Gilbert Tennent 's Serm. on the Lawfulness of Defensive War," 2nd ed., Phila. , 1747 , 8vo. He d. 3, 26, 1771 , aged 49." 2nd husband to Harriet Logan, David Howard.
788. Colonial & Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania; Geneological and Personal Memoires, Vol. I, Early Pennsylvania Land Records; Minutes of the board of Property of the Province of Pennsylvania, John W Jordan, L.LD, Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Ex-General Registrar of Sons of the Revolution, and Registrar of Pennsylvania Society, Originally published New York and Chicago 1911; Repreinted for Clearfield, Inc by Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md., 1994, Copyright 1978 Geneological Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore, Md. All Rights Reserved., Genforum Library-Part of the larger data base entitled:Genealogical Records: Pennsylvania Colonial Records, 1600s-1800s ,, http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/_glc_/5581/index.html, p 32 no date.
789. Virginia Marriage Records. Jan 1 1815-Dec 31 1815. Feb 21 1815 URL http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/MVA1815.html. Part of Virginia and New York Genealogy. http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/index.html. Maintained by frmrnyr@aol.com. A Free site, with much data, not always informing of original source record. Huge compiled data base. Oct 12 1815 David P. Howard Harriet St. John widow Powhatan County widow of john st. john.
790. (Rememberances of James Ivy Fears Lavender, 9 April 1937 - Transcribed as
written by Laurence Leigh Kriv, 30 December 2001)

"Ft. Worth, Texas April 9, 1937

Some facts concerning the birth day and place also some events in the life of JAMES IVY FEARS LAVENDER.

I was born on the farm of my paternal Grand Father, Judge James Lavender, 7 miles from Griffen Georgia, Spalding County. Date Saturday, May 21, 1864, at half past four o'clock in the afternoon.
My Father Griffin Fears Lavender was in the army at the time but was home on furlo the day of my birth. Returned in a day or so in order to reach his command before the experation of the furlo. But was home again when I was some two months old and then back to the army and stayed until Nov. 22, 1864 when in a litlle fight at Griswoldville, Georgia he was killed.
After the fight he never answered the roll call and his commanding officer sent special request for his body and to get the contents of his pockets so as to send them home to my mother but his remains were
not found so that he was reported as "Missing" As there had been some prisoners taken my mother had tried to hope that he was taken prisoner and if so when the war closed next April surely he would come home but no such happy ending was in store.
Time went on and when I was some ten years old there was a re-union of
his brigade and at that meeting some man whose name I do not have made an address and in that speech he said that three days after the fight he in company with two other non commissioned officers were riding over the battlefield and some surrounding territory
and they found two bodies which were identified one as that of my father.
Well that was the first proog we had as to my father's taking off. He said that from what he could gather the two men had been wounded and went some distance from the scene of the battle and and there they died. He turned over the names and contents of each man's pockets to the officer in command but at the date of the speech ten years later he did not remember.
My father was with the army from Atlanta on south th Griswoldville.
When the cannons would fire my mother would hear the dishes in her cupboard rattle.
My father had bought a farm which he knew as the Shackesford place, and that was really his homestead but for the occasion of my birth mother had gone to the home of Grand Pa Lavender.
After the war ended and father did not come home it was very evident that he was dead but the speech ten years later was the first certain facts we had.
However under the law he was legally dead and his estate was administered on and sold just after the close of the war when it brought less than ten cents in the dollar of what father had paid for it.
After the administrator's sale mother rented a farm and had some now freed slaves cultivate it and then next year she bought a farm where we lived still Griffin Georgia until I was four years old when we moved to Grantville Georgia. After living in Grantville three years we moved with my maternal grandmother, Mrs. S.B. Steagall to Texas and the first year we lived at or near a little country town called at that time "Forest Hill" but later changed to :Glenn Fawn" We lived there one year and then moved to Mt. Enterprise, Texas and lived there a year and moved to Dallas, Texas. Stayed in Dallas three years and back to Mt. Enterprise where I grew to manhood.
I went to school in Georgia to a Mr. Cotter whom I though very small at the time remember as one of the best men whom I ever knew.
Then at Mt. Enterprise before moving to Dallas I attended a private school taught by a man named Andrew Jordan.
After moving to Dallas I went to a private school taught by a Mrs. Miller whom I loved as a child should love a good teacher. Then I attended what we then called "The Methodist College"
After returning in 1875 to Mt. Enterprise I went to such schools as we had whether public or private until I was grownand I went to Minden, Rusk County and went to school to a Professor Geeorge IsamWatkins a man loved by every pupil who ever went to school to him.
But it would be a crime I could never forgive myself for if I did not make moving remarks of one Robert T. Milner who taught school at Mt. Enterprise. He later became a newspaper editor and later a member from Rusk County of the Legislature and held under Governor T.M.Campbell some appointment I forget at this minute what it was but was later made President of the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas.
After my school at Minden I taught country schools for two years there in Rusk County and then moved to Jefferson, Marion County. Was living in Jefferson when I married.
I married Julia Irene Howard of Henderson, the County Seat of Rusk County. She was the second oldest daughter of David Patterson and Marthy Ann Howard. Of my parents-in-law I shall ever cherish the fondest memories. Surely if any man ever had a Father-in-law and a Mother-in-law who were worth their weight in gold then I had much.
My wife, Julia was the mother of by ten children two of whon died in infancy and the rest lived to be grown and then two very sweet daughters, Eula, and Addie died some years after their mother was translated to a better world than this.
In Jefferson I did various kinds of work, sold insurance some, had a job
as transfer man for the Pacific Express Company for a while."
=====================

--- Laurence Kriv
--- lkriv@ix.netcom.com
--- EarthLink: It's your Internet. Identified as David Patterson Howard.
791. "David P. Howard" In census records, deed records and marriage records he is shown as David P Howard. It is his son in law James Ivey Fears Lavender who identifies him as David Patterson Howard confirming my suspicion that the Patterson name was an important one to the men of this family, coming down to the first born son in the line from David Patterson Howard to his son James Patterson "Pat" Howard, to Pat's son Benjamin Patterson Howard. The Patterson middle name very likely comes at least from Ben's greatgrandfather, (Pat's Great Grandfather, David's grandfather) , David P Howard of Virginia who married Harriet Logan and who has not yet been found with a full middle name, being currently confined in sources to David P Howard only.
792. "Rusk County Heritage Association," Provided to Mom by work of its members in late 1980s, Meets monthly at the Howard Home (mom's ancestor's Texas home), Martha Ann Fowler.
793. (Rememberances of James Ivy Fears Lavender, 9 April 1937 - Transcribed as
written by Laurence Leigh Kriv, 30 December 2001)

"Ft. Worth, Texas April 9, 1937

Some facts concerning the birth day and place also some events in the life of JAMES IVY FEARS LAVENDER.

I was born on the farm of my paternal Grand Father, Judge James Lavender, 7 miles from Griffen Georgia, Spalding County. Date Saturday, May 21, 1864, at half past four o'clock in the afternoon.
My Father Griffin Fears Lavender was in the army at the time but was home on furlo the day of my birth. Returned in a day or so in order to reach his command before the experation of the furlo. But was home again when I was some two months old and then back to the army and stayed until Nov. 22, 1864 when in a litlle fight at Griswoldville, Georgia he was killed.
After the fight he never answered the roll call and his commanding officer sent special request for his body and to get the contents of his pockets so as to send them home to my mother but his remains were
not found so that he was reported as "Missing" As there had been some prisoners taken my mother had tried to hope that he was taken prisoner and if so when the war closed next April surely he would come home but no such happy ending was in store.
Time went on and when I was some ten years old there was a re-union of
his brigade and at that meeting some man whose name I do not have made an address and in that speech he said that three days after the fight he in company with two other non commissioned officers were riding over the battlefield and some surrounding territory
and they found two bodies which were identified one as that of my father.
Well that was the first proog we had as to my father's taking off. He said that from what he could gather the two men had been wounded and went some distance from the scene of the battle and and there they died. He turned over the names and contents of each man's pockets to the officer in command but at the date of the speech ten years later he did not remember.
My father was with the army from Atlanta on south th Griswoldville.
When the cannons would fire my mother would hear the dishes in her cupboard rattle.
My father had bought a farm which he knew as the Shackesford place, and that was really his homestead but for the occasion of my birth mother had gone to the home of Grand Pa Lavender.
After the war ended and father did not come home it was very evident that he was dead but the speech ten years later was the first certain facts we had.
However under the law he was legally dead and his estate was administered on and sold just after the close of the war when it brought less than ten cents in the dollar of what father had paid for it.
After the administrator's sale mother rented a farm and had some now freed slaves cultivate it and then next year she bought a farm where we lived still Griffin Georgia until I was four years old when we moved to Grantville Georgia. After living in Grantville three years we moved with my maternal grandmother, Mrs. S.B. Steagall to Texas and the first year we lived at or near a little country town called at that time "Forest Hill" but later changed to :Glenn Fawn" We lived there one year and then moved to Mt. Enterprise, Texas and lived there a year and moved to Dallas, Texas. Stayed in Dallas three years and back to Mt. Enterprise where I grew to manhood.
I went to school in Georgia to a Mr. Cotter whom I though very small at the time remember as one of the best men whom I ever knew.
Then at Mt. Enterprise before moving to Dallas I attended a private school taught by a man named Andrew Jordan.
After moving to Dallas I went to a private school taught by a Mrs. Miller whom I loved as a child should love a good teacher. Then I attended what we then called "The Methodist College"
After returning in 1875 to Mt. Enterprise I went to such schools as we had whether public or private until I was grownand I went to Minden, Rusk County and went to school to a Professor Geeorge IsamWatkins a man loved by every pupil who ever went to school to him.
But it would be a crime I could never forgive myself for if I did not make moving remarks of one Robert T. Milner who taught school at Mt. Enterprise. He later became a newspaper editor and later a member from Rusk County of the Legislature and held under Governor T.M.Campbell some appointment I forget at this minute what it was but was later made President of the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas.
After my school at Minden I taught country schools for two years there in Rusk County and then moved to Jefferson, Marion County. Was living in Jefferson when I married.
I married Julia Irene Howard of Henderson, the County Seat of Rusk County. She was the second oldest daughter of David Patterson and Marthy Ann Howard. Of my parents-in-law I shall ever cherish the fondest memories. Surely if any man ever had a Father-in-law and a Mother-in-law who were worth their weight in gold then I had much.
My wife, Julia was the mother of by ten children two of whon died in infancy and the rest lived to be grown and then two very sweet daughters, Eula, and Addie died some years after their mother was translated to a better world than this.
In Jefferson I did various kinds of work, sold insurance some, had a job
as transfer man for the Pacific Express Company for a while."
=====================

--- Laurence Kriv
--- lkriv@ix.netcom.com
--- EarthLink: It's your Internet. Marthy Ann Howard.
794. Marriage Index: Texas, 1851-1900
Howard, David P.
Married: May 01, 1856 in: Nacogdoches, TX
Gender: M
Source info: microfilm reference numbers File name: 1003581 through 1003583
Spouse's gender: F Spouse's name: Fowler, Martha Ann
Genforum Library
http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_browse.cgi?CDNUM=398&PAGE=%2Fifa%2F398%2Findex%2FH%2F4635.HOWARD-1FCLAMEEL.brw
795. Early Nacogdoches, Texas Marriages - Book B (Arranged by brides)
http://www.genlookups.com/texas_marriages/tx-nacogdoches-brides2.htm
796. 022501, my interview with Doris Diggs Osborne, mom's cousin, Oklahoma City, Okla, (405)942-3886.
797. joealb@earthlink.net (Cricket Albertson), "Cites DAR records in Hawkinsville, GA from the McGehee Family Bible."
798. Census 1860 for Alabama shown as Fannie age 1, born Ala as was her older sister Americus, shown as a male under that name.
799. 022501, my interview with Doris Diggs Osborne, mom's cousin, Oklahoma City, Okla, (405)942-3886, appendicitis.
800. Family Records had said marriage occured "Dallas" .
There is a Dallas County Alabama and John D McGehee married Mrs Mary Choat there in 1848 ...could be a hint from family notes that Dallas County Alabama is involved in the McGehee/Cofield lines.
http://members.aol.com/eleanorcol/McGeheeMarriages.html#Alabama
801. Family Notes from Donald McCurdy Swope-research and interviews.
802. "Marriage Record in Writer's possesion (CLS)."
803. "Birth Record in Writer's Possesion (CLS)."
804. "Death Certificate in writer's possesion (CLS)."
805. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, seems to cite a contributor, no primary sources for this marriage.
806. [Burke's] MONTGOMERIE-EARLS OF EGLINTO(U)N AND WINTON, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as dtr and wife.
807. [Burke's] HOME EARLS OF HOME, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as wife and mother.
808. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, Margaret or Elizabeth William Drummond, Histories of Noble British Families Microfilm # 0990417, (London, William Pickering, 1846, (Folio) Vol. II, pp. 1-41.), Microfilm # 0990417.
809. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, MONTGOMERIE-EARLS OF EGLINTO(U)N AND WINTON.
810. "The Hume Family HomePage," well sourced and detailed site on Home/Hume Family, Jim Hume jamesrhume@swbell.net, http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~hume/, 2nd marriage.
811. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray, as wife and mother as shown in narrative.
812. Ibid. Mother to Elizabeth [Katherine] Crawford-Earls Crawford and Balcarres.
813. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl of Ross and Margaret Graham.
814. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 1387 Stuart Earls of Moray.
815. soc.genealogy.medieval Posting, http://groups.google.com/groups?group=soc.genealogy.medieval, See detail for poster, date , query name and URL, 1387 cites Scots Peerage and secondly Burkes From: KWhitebsi@aol.com Subject: Re: Agnes Dunbar, wife of James Douglas of Dalkeith Date: 1998/10/22 URL http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=b8ae8457.362fe39e%40aol.com.
816. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" 1372 see source detail for citations.
817. Ibid. contracted 2 May 1355.
818. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, (Papal dispensation 2 May 1355) Stuart Earls of Moray.
819. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" NN Leitch.
820. SGM Post "Stewart Saga-Four" Leo van De Pas author, one of a series of five articles Sources as given for series in part five follow text of part four given below
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - FOUR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Original FormatDate: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+four%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213123706.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1

Post reads
"Generation VII-1
1st marriage
1.Robert III, king of Scots 1390-1406
born circa 1337, died 4 April 1406 Dundonald Castle
In 1388, John, Earl of Carrick, was kicked by a horse
and received an injury which left him lame for life.
When Robert II died in April 1390, he was succeeded
by a semi-invalid who was already over fifty. Carrick
took the name of Robert III as John appeared to have
been an unlucky name for kings.
Between Robert III's accession and his coronation
occurred one of the most notorious outrages ever
committed against the royal authority. On 17 June 1390,
the king's brother, Alexander, "the Wolf of Badenoch",
in pursuit of a feud with the Bishop of Moray, burned
the Cathedral and the town of Elgin with the parish church
and the Maison Dieu Hospital. Robert III and his
councillors made Alexander submit and promise reparations
to the bishop of Moray.
Robert III acknowledged his incapacity by delegating
his authority to his next brother, Robert, Earl of Fife,
who possessed both ability and ambition. However, while
they acted together against their brother, Alexander,
there was rivalry between the king and Robert, Earl of
Fife. After a period, Robert III ousted Fife but, under
his personal rule, law and order deteriorated sharply.
As a result, he appointed his son-and-heir, David, as his
deputy. However, despite a successful beginning, David
made powerful enemies, including his own brother-in-law
and his uncle, the latter imprisoning him in Falkland
Castle where he died, according to a parliamentary enquiry
"through Divine providence and not otherwise". However,
it seems more likely that he was killed on his uncle's
orders.
In 1406, in order to keep him safe from his uncle,
Robert III sent James, his 12-year-old son and heir, to
France. However, James's ship was captured by English
pirates and he spent the next 18 years in captivity.
The news killed Robert III. He had once said, "Bury me
in the midden, and write: "Here lies the worst of kings
and the most wretched of men".
married circa 1366
Annabella Drummond, daughter of Sir John Drummond, of
Stobhall and Mary Montfichet
(children)

2.Walter Stewart, Earl of Fife
died 14 August 1362
married Isabel MacDuff, Countess of Fife, daughter
of Duncan MacDuff, 10th Earl of Fife, and Mary
de Monthermer
died after 12 August 1389
(childless)

3.Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany
born circa 1340, died 3 September 1420 Stirling
In 1361 he became, in right of his wife, Earl of Menteith.
However, in 1371, he became Earl of Fife by which title
he was generally known. In 1388 King Robert II, his
elderly father, had him appointed 'Guardian of the Realm'.
In 1390, after their father's death, Fife's crippled
brother, Robert III, became King of Scots. The latter,
after acknowledging his own incapacity, appointed the
Earl of Fife again guardian of the kingdom. However, when
rivalry ensued between the two brothers, Fife was replaced
by David, the king's eldest son.
In March 1398, with his nephew David, he had an
interview with John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancasterm and other
English commissioners. As a result both the Earl of Fife
and his nephew became the first Dukes ever created in
Scotland. The Earl of Fife became Duke of Albany and his
nephew Duke of Rothesay.
For his complicity in the arrest and imprisonment of
the Duke of Rothesay he received a remission from
Parliament. When his nephew died while imprisoned, the
parliamentary enquiry decided that the death had been
caused by "Divine providence and not otherwise".
In 1406 when his brother died and the heir, James I,
was imprisoned in England, the Duke of Albany was made
Regent of the Kingdom. Albany had been blamed for not
securing the release of James I even though, in 1416,
he was able to ransom his own son. However, it was English
policy which kept James I captive. Several of Albany's
opponents met with sudden, mysterious deaths. However, he
was a clever politician who knew how to win people over
and seemed to have governed well, though being over 65
when he became Regent, and over 80 when he died in 1420.
married (1) 1361
Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith, daughter of
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith, and Mary, Countess
of Menteith
born circa 1339, died circa 1380
married (2) contracted 4 May 1380
Muriella Keith, daughter of Sir William Keith,
Marischal of of Scotland, and Margaret Fraser
died before 1 June 1449
(children)

4.Alexander Stewart "the Wolf of Badenoch", Earl of Buchan
died circa 1405
When the Bishop of Moray excommunicated him for deserting
his wife in favour of his mistress, he burnt the town of
Forres and the Cathedral of Elgin in 1390.
married circa July 1382
Eupheme de Ross, suo jure Countess of Ross, daughter
of William de Ross, 5th Earl of Ross and Mary NN
died circa 20 February 1395
(children)

5.Lady Margaret Stewart
marriage contracted 14 June 1350
Eoin "the Good", Lord of the Isles, High Chief of
Clan Donald, son of Angus 'Og', Lord of the Isles
and Agnes NN
died circa 1387 Ardtonish Castle

6.Lady Marjorie Stewart
died after 6 May 1417
married (1) contracted 11 July 1370
John Dunbar, Earl of Moray, son of George Dunbar,
Earl of Dunbar and March, and Christine Seton
died before 15 February 1392 York
married (2) circa 1403
Sir Alexander Keith, of Grantown

7.Lady Jean Stewart
married (1)
Sir John Keith
died before 27 December 1375
married (2) 1375
Sir John Lyon, of Glamis
killed 4 November 1382
married (3) circa November 1384
Sir James Sandilands, of Calder

8.Lady Isabella Stewart
died circa 1410
married (1) contracted 24 September 1371
James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas, Earl of Mar,
son of William Douglas, 1st Earl of Douglas, and
Lady Margaret Mar, Countess of Mar
born circa 1358
killed in battle circa 14 August 1388 Otterburn
married (2) circa 1390
Sir John Edmonstone

9.Lady Elizabeth Stewart
married before 7 November 1372
Sir Thomas Hay, of Erroll, Constable of Scotland,
son of Sir David Hay, of Erroll and NN Keith
died July 1406

2nd marriage
10.David Stewart, Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Caithness
died before 15 March 1390
Justiciar of Scotland, he was implicated in the plot
that led to King James I's assassination, and was
publicly tortured to death in Edinburgh, his head
crowned with a red-hot iron crown inscribed "the king
of traitors".
married NN Lindsay, daughter of Sir Alexander Lindsay,
of Glenesk and Catherine Stirling, heiress of Glenesk
(children)
11.Walter Stewart, Earl of Caithness, Earl of Athol
executed 26 March 1437 Stirling

12.Lady Egidia Stewart
married 1387
Sir William Douglas, of Nithsdale, son of Archibald
Douglas "the Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas, and NN

13.Lady Katherine Stewart
married 22 February 1375/1380
David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford, son of Sir
Alexander Lindsay, of Glenesk, and Catherine Stirling,
heiress of Glenesk
born circa 1360, died February 1407 Finhaven Castle

illegitimate
(by a)
14.Sir John Stewart "the Black Stewart"
hereditary Sheriff of Bute
mentioned 1385 and 1400
married Jean Semple, daughter of Sir John Semple
(children)
(by b)
15.Alexander Stewart, Canon of Glasgow

16.Alexander Stewart, of Inverlunan

17.James Stewart, of Kinfauns

18.Sir John Stewart, of Dundonald
Keeper of Dunbarton Castle
murdered in 1425

19.Thomas Stewart, Archdeacon of St.Andrews, Dean of Dunkeld

(by c)
20.Sir John Stewart, 1st of Cardney

to be continued

Leo van de Pas"
Sources cited in last article [Stewart Saga-Five]
Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart NN Leitch.
821. Thoroughly Sourced by Person at cite, WW-Person A data base of the higher nobility in Europe, http://www8.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/html/ww-person.html, 112900, via Roots-L, Moire Leith.
822. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Moira Leich.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
823. Libby, "Descendants of Robert II of Scotland," http://libby.withnall.com/robert/database.htm, accessed 092700, libby@withnall.com, Libby states information is sourced, and that she will send it to me (092700), Moira Leitch.
824. [Burke's] CRICHTON-STUART MARQESSES OF BUTE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, " founder of this family, was a natural s of KING ROBERT II.".
825. [Burkes] STUART EARLS OF MORAY, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, shown as natural son.
826. [Burke's] GRAHAM, DUKES OF MONTROSE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, [as husband].
827. SGM Post "Stewart Saga-Four" Leo van De Pas author, one of a series of five articles Sources as given for series in part five follow text of part four given below
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - FOUR
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Original FormatDate: 1998/12/12
URL http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Stewart+Saga+-+four%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213123706.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=1

Post reads
"Generation VII-1
1st marriage
1.Robert III, king of Scots 1390-1406
born circa 1337, died 4 April 1406 Dundonald Castle
In 1388, John, Earl of Carrick, was kicked by a horse
and received an injury which left him lame for life.
When Robert II died in April 1390, he was succeeded
by a semi-invalid who was already over fifty. Carrick
took the name of Robert III as John appeared to have
been an unlucky name for kings.
Between Robert III's accession and his coronation
occurred one of the most notorious outrages ever
committed against the royal authority. On 17 June 1390,
the king's brother, Alexander, "the Wolf of Badenoch",
in pursuit of a feud with the Bishop of Moray, burned
the Cathedral and the town of Elgin with the parish church
and the Maison Dieu Hospital. Robert III and his
councillors made Alexander submit and promise reparations
to the bishop of Moray.
Robert III acknowledged his incapacity by delegating
his authority to his next brother, Robert, Earl of Fife,
who possessed both ability and ambition. However, while
they acted together against their brother, Alexander,
there was rivalry between the king and Robert, Earl of
Fife. After a period, Robert III ousted Fife but, under
his personal rule, law and order deteriorated sharply.
As a result, he appointed his son-and-heir, David, as his
deputy. However, despite a successful beginning, David
made powerful enemies, including his own brother-in-law
and his uncle, the latter imprisoning him in Falkland
Castle where he died, according to a parliamentary enquiry
"through Divine providence and not otherwise". However,
it seems more likely that he was killed on his uncle's
orders.
In 1406, in order to keep him safe from his uncle,
Robert III sent James, his 12-year-old son and heir, to
France. However, James's ship was captured by English
pirates and he spent the next 18 years in captivity.
The news killed Robert III. He had once said, "Bury me
in the midden, and write: "Here lies the worst of kings
and the most wretched of men".
married circa 1366
Annabella Drummond, daughter of Sir John Drummond, of
Stobhall and Mary Montfichet
(children)

2.Walter Stewart, Earl of Fife
died 14 August 1362
married Isabel MacDuff, Countess of Fife, daughter
of Duncan MacDuff, 10th Earl of Fife, and Mary
de Monthermer
died after 12 August 1389
(childless)

3.Robert Stewart, 1st Duke of Albany
born circa 1340, died 3 September 1420 Stirling
In 1361 he became, in right of his wife, Earl of Menteith.
However, in 1371, he became Earl of Fife by which title
he was generally known. In 1388 King Robert II, his
elderly father, had him appointed 'Guardian of the Realm'.
In 1390, after their father's death, Fife's crippled
brother, Robert III, became King of Scots. The latter,
after acknowledging his own incapacity, appointed the
Earl of Fife again guardian of the kingdom. However, when
rivalry ensued between the two brothers, Fife was replaced
by David, the king's eldest son.
In March 1398, with his nephew David, he had an
interview with John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancasterm and other
English commissioners. As a result both the Earl of Fife
and his nephew became the first Dukes ever created in
Scotland. The Earl of Fife became Duke of Albany and his
nephew Duke of Rothesay.
For his complicity in the arrest and imprisonment of
the Duke of Rothesay he received a remission from
Parliament. When his nephew died while imprisoned, the
parliamentary enquiry decided that the death had been
caused by "Divine providence and not otherwise".
In 1406 when his brother died and the heir, James I,
was imprisoned in England, the Duke of Albany was made
Regent of the Kingdom. Albany had been blamed for not
securing the release of James I even though, in 1416,
he was able to ransom his own son. However, it was English
policy which kept James I captive. Several of Albany's
opponents met with sudden, mysterious deaths. However, he
was a clever politician who knew how to win people over
and seemed to have governed well, though being over 65
when he became Regent, and over 80 when he died in 1420.
married (1) 1361
Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith, daughter of
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith, and Mary, Countess
of Menteith
born circa 1339, died circa 1380
married (2) contracted 4 May 1380
Muriella Keith, daughter of Sir William Keith,
Marischal of of Scotland, and Margaret Fraser
died before 1 June 1449
(children)

4.Alexander Stewart "the Wolf of Badenoch", Earl of Buchan
died circa 1405
When the Bishop of Moray excommunicated him for deserting
his wife in favour of his mistress, he burnt the town of
Forres and the Cathedral of Elgin in 1390.
married circa July 1382
Eupheme de Ross, suo jure Countess of Ross, daughter
of William de Ross, 5th Earl of Ross and Mary NN
died circa 20 February 1395
(children)

5.Lady Margaret Stewart
marriage contracted 14 June 1350
Eoin "the Good", Lord of the Isles, High Chief of
Clan Donald, son of Angus 'Og', Lord of the Isles
and Agnes NN
died circa 1387 Ardtonish Castle

6.Lady Marjorie Stewart
died after 6 May 1417
married (1) contracted 11 July 1370
John Dunbar, Earl of Moray, son of George Dunbar,
Earl of Dunbar and March, and Christine Seton
died before 15 February 1392 York
married (2) circa 1403
Sir Alexander Keith, of Grantown

7.Lady Jean Stewart
married (1)
Sir John Keith
died before 27 December 1375
married (2) 1375
Sir John Lyon, of Glamis
killed 4 November 1382
married (3) circa November 1384
Sir James Sandilands, of Calder

8.Lady Isabella Stewart
died circa 1410
married (1) contracted 24 September 1371
James Douglas, 2nd Earl of Douglas, Earl of Mar,
son of William Douglas, 1st Earl of Douglas, and
Lady Margaret Mar, Countess of Mar
born circa 1358
killed in battle circa 14 August 1388 Otterburn
married (2) circa 1390
Sir John Edmonstone

9.Lady Elizabeth Stewart
married before 7 November 1372
Sir Thomas Hay, of Erroll, Constable of Scotland,
son of Sir David Hay, of Erroll and NN Keith
died July 1406

2nd marriage
10.David Stewart, Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Caithness
died before 15 March 1390
Justiciar of Scotland, he was implicated in the plot
that led to King James I's assassination, and was
publicly tortured to death in Edinburgh, his head
crowned with a red-hot iron crown inscribed "the king
of traitors".
married NN Lindsay, daughter of Sir Alexander Lindsay,
of Glenesk and Catherine Stirling, heiress of Glenesk
(children)
11.Walter Stewart, Earl of Caithness, Earl of Athol
executed 26 March 1437 Stirling

12.Lady Egidia Stewart
married 1387
Sir William Douglas, of Nithsdale, son of Archibald
Douglas "the Grim", 3rd Earl of Douglas, and NN

13.Lady Katherine Stewart
married 22 February 1375/1380
David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford, son of Sir
Alexander Lindsay, of Glenesk, and Catherine Stirling,
heiress of Glenesk
born circa 1360, died February 1407 Finhaven Castle

illegitimate
(by a)
14.Sir John Stewart "the Black Stewart"
hereditary Sheriff of Bute
mentioned 1385 and 1400
married Jean Semple, daughter of Sir John Semple
(children)
(by b)
15.Alexander Stewart, Canon of Glasgow

16.Alexander Stewart, of Inverlunan

17.James Stewart, of Kinfauns

18.Sir John Stewart, of Dundonald
Keeper of Dunbarton Castle
murdered in 1425

19.Thomas Stewart, Archdeacon of St.Andrews, Dean of Dunkeld

(by c)
20.Sir John Stewart, 1st of Cardney

to be continued

Leo van de Pas"
Sources cited in last article [Stewart Saga-Five]
Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart 14.Sir John Stewart "the Black Stewart" hereditary Sheriff of Bute mentioned 1385 and 1400 married Jean Semple, daughter of Sir John Semple.
828. SGM post from Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)
Subject: Graham of Abercorn, Kincardine etc.
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/11/26
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II+Stewart%22+%22children%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=365c9b54.5279807%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=1
"The source for the early part of the chart is predominantly Burke's Peerage sub Montrose. The later part of the chart draws on Burke's and the 'Complete Peerage' sub Graham, Montrose and Strathearn.

I have only one major query - the link between the Grahams of Dalkeith and the Douglases of Dalkeith (and on to the Earls of Morton) - see the note at #11-iii and the marriage at #66." Sir John Stewart of Dundonald, Sherriff of Bute "The source for the early part of the chart is predominantly Burke's Peerage sub Montrose. The later part of the chart draws on Burke's and the 'Complete Peerage' sub Graham, Montrose and Strathearn.".
829. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30.
830. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, 1360.
831. SGM post from Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)
Subject: Graham of Abercorn, Kincardine etc.
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/11/26
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II+Stewart%22+%22children%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=365c9b54.5279807%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=1
"The source for the early part of the chart is predominantly Burke's Peerage sub Montrose. The later part of the chart draws on Burke's and the 'Complete Peerage' sub Graham, Montrose and Strathearn.

I have only one major query - the link between the Grahams of Dalkeith and the Douglases of Dalkeith (and on to the Earls of Morton) - see the note at #11-iii and the marriage at #66." 1445/1449 "The source for the early part of the chart is predominantly Burke's Peerage sub Montrose. The later part of the chart draws on Burke's and the 'Complete Peerage' sub Graham, Montrose and Strathearn.".
832. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, 1449.
833. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, 1449.
834. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, (Data Base Does Not Give Progeny).
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
835. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, Janet Semple.
836. Ibid. Janet Semple of Eliotstown.
837. [Burke's] CRICHTON-STUART MARQESSES OF BUTE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp.
838. Ibid. Ninian Sherriff of Bute.
839. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, Sir Ninian Stewart.
840. from the book, "The PETTEGREW Family of Kittery, Maine and Allied Families.
Quoted in forum
841. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, 1460.
842. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, 1469.
843. "Link to source on Web:," reads: CARTER - Looking for any information on Henry F Carter married to Mary Thompson, if any one knows anything about there children please let me know . It would be greatly appreciated GCarter@aol.com, http://www.butesonsanddaughters.com/stuarts.htm.
844. [Burke's] CRICHTON-STUART MARQESSES OF BUTE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, dau of Archibald, Earl of Argyll (see ARGYLL, D).
845. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as wife BOYD- BARONS KILMARNOCK.
846. [Burke's] CRICHTON-STUART MARQESSES OF BUTE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, as wife.
847. Ibid. Dtr Grisel with no more info.
848. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, pages xiii-xiv also chart one. "John Sherriff Of Bute" Father to Grisel who married Ninian Stewart as shown.
849. [Burke's] CRICHTON-STUART MARQESSES OF BUTE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, wife to Stewart.
850. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, wife to Campbell Campbell of Auchinbreck, Bt.
851. [Burke's] CRICHTON-STUART MARQESSES OF BUTE, "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Named as dtr Grissel, with no mention of marriage or progeny. Dtr only.
852. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, pages xiii-xiv also chart one, shown as wife to Ninian, dtr of John, Sherriff of Bute.
853. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, wife to Ninian, dtr of John, Sherriff of Bute.
854. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, pages xiii-xiv also chart one.
855. Ibid. pages xiii-xiv also chart one-Charles Stewart.
856. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, Charles of Ballintoy Stewart.
857. "McCURDY-L@rootsweb.com," 092000, Waldonhaus@aol.com, Waldonhaus@aol.com, Waldonhaus@aol.com, http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/M/McCURDY+1998+308596923+F.
858. Rootsweb Surname McCurdy /McCURDY-L@rootsweb.com, "[McCURDY-L] Martha Frances McCurdy b. 1835 Anna, IL," Thu, 27 May 1999 19:27:14 EDT, Lisa Renee?, http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/M/McCURDY+1999+453671889+F, 092000, ReneeLisa@webtv.net.
859. 1810 letter: Written by Mary McCurdy of Rathlin, Ireland in 1810 to her brother John, then residing on the Guinea Coast of Africa and describing events as told to her by her Grandfather McCurdy's brother Neil, then 81 and "yet alive" . The letter in part reads:
"I will tell you all that I have learned from Uncle Neil, grandfather's brother, still living at the age of 81 years.
His father, Pethrick, was the eldest of six children: Pethrick, Daniel, Neil, Margaret, James and Cecelia. James married Polly Cook and went to America about 50 years ago. Daniel married Jeanet Jackson. Neil never married. He died two years ago at the age of 97.
Margaret died a few weeks ago at the good old age of 100. She was a grand old woman; I've often heard her tell how her grandparents was persecuted by the Episcopalians and other sects in Scotland and how her grandfather fled to Ireland with four brothers in a boat and the hardships they had crossing the Clyde. I also heard her talk of a visit she took with her nephew, Jackson McCurdy, to Ayr and there saw Robert Burns, then a young man of no note but afterwards became a famous poet.
Cecelia died in 1779 at the age of 85. Pathrick died in 1798 at the age of 98, he married his cousin Mary Laughlin. Uncle Neil says his grandfather was Daniel, the youngest of five brothers: James, David, William, John and Daniel. All these had children but William. David's children were girls. Daniel died in 1747 at the age of 70 years. His wife's name was Margaret Laughlin. Daniel's father's name was Pathrick, one of the five brothers who were refugees from Scotland.
Pathrick, John and Daniel was in the bloody battle of the Boyne in 1690. Some of them, with their families, were in the siege of Derry. "661 [from HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY. compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author. Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994. http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html]
860. H. Percy Blanchard., "" The Ancestral McCurdys" CHAPTER IX The sons of Petheric, " The Refugee"," http://www.genealogy.com/cgi-bin/ifa_image.cgi?Welcome=1010208269.
861. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, Contains the letter 1810 letter from Mary McCurdy, given in part 1810 above.
862. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, Sailed "in an open boat from But.
863. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, letter written by Mary McCurdy of Rathlin, Ireland in 1810 to her brother John, then residing on the Guinea Coast of Africa and quoting her Grandfather McCurdy's brother Neil, then 81.
864. Entry written by Charles McCurdy 1888 and found in H Percy Blanchard "the Ancestral McCurdy's. Reads:
""James (99) McCurdy had four children, viz: Archibald (94), James, Hugh (95) and Robert (96). He never removed from Lancaster county, but died there about 1765. Of the above named sons of James McCurdy, Archibald, the oldest remained in Lancaster county, in possession of the homestead, and is the ancestor of the Virginia branch. Hugh and James went to Franklin county, Penn., where some of their descendants still reside; and Robert, my great grandfather went to Adams county, Pa. The latter had three sons, via: William (4) - my grandfather (who was elected over Thaddens Stevens to the legislature . . . . ) Robert (4) and James (4). Robert went to Ohio, and I know nothing of his descendants. James died, leaving one son who settled in New Albany, Indiana, and William remained in possession of his father's farm in this, Adams County. He married Nancy King, and had two sons: John King (5), a physician, whose daughter still resides in Reading, Pa., as Robert (5), my father, who died in 1885. I can only bring my own claim of title to this end, and I regret that I have not complete data at hand concerning the sons of Archibald, James and Hugh; but I suppose it is not possible to obtain them. There may be some information to be had, in Virginia, concerning Archibald's descendants, which can be added to this paper . . . . "
 
"Gettysburg, Penn.
January 30th, 1888." Chas. M. McCurdy."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pattianne/history/Father of the Virgina Branch867 p. X (chart four); page 30.
865. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, p.X (chart four) page 30.
866. "Rootsweb McCurdy-L McCurdy's of Lancaster and Franklin Co," Thu, 18 Jun 1998 01:35:48, Jennifer E. Whiteford, Rootsweb McCurdy-L (mailing lists), http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/M/McCURDY+1998+305584046+F, 092000, jenbooks@bellatlantic.net, Subject: James McCurdy of Lancaster Co., PA.
867. H. Percy Blanchard, "The Ancestral McCurdys", The Covenant Publishing Co., London, 1930, p. X (chart four); page 30, p. X (chart four); page 30.
868. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, Letter from Mary McCurdy written 1810 and describing family history provided by her Great Uncle Neil. In it she says that "James McCurdy married Polly Cooke and went to America". This infers that the marriage took place in Ireland.
869. Will Abstract Robert McCurdy
"Abstracts of Adams County, Pennsylvania Wills (1800-1826)" Kevin L Greenholt. Family Line Publications. 1988
Robert McCURDY, Cumberland Twp, sick, Children: William, Robert, Nancy PAXTON, James, Margaret w/o George SHEKELY, Martha w/o Samuel TAGGART, Mary w/o Robert THOMPSON, grandson: Robert McCurdy PAXTON. Exec: Sons William, Robert. WItnesses: Robert HAYES, David HORNER, Robert MAJOR. Written: 5 Aug 1805 probate 25 May 1810. Self.
870. "Adams County Sentinel (Centinel) -Spelling varies at Historical Society-mostly Sentinel," Adams County Newspaper published Gettysburg, Sited by the Adams county historical society in mcCurdy file, Wed May 16 1810 edition "MCCurdy, RObert of Cumberland twp, died on the 8th at his farm aged 74 years".
871. Yeager, James M, Brief history of Yeager, Buffington, Creighton, Jacobs, Lemon, Hoffman and Woodside Families, No Further info, Source cited in McCurdy folder from researcher.
872. Mellon, Rachel Hughey Larimer , b. 1847 (Main Author), The Larimers, McAllisters and Allied Families, 1903, Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1960. on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm. FHL US/CAN Film, Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : LDS Centers, 847634.
873. Will Abstract William Creighton
"GREIGHTON, WILLIAM (Name should be CRIGHTON.) Leacock Twp.
November 10, 1790 November 20, 1790
Wife: Barbara Creighton.
Children: Mary, Martha, Margaret and Ann.
Grandchildren: William, Samuel and Margaret Erven and
Isaac Litner (parents' names not stated).
Ex.: Robert McCurdy and William Brisben"
URL
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/lancaster/wills/willabstf-g.txt daughter.
874. Rachel H. (Larimer) Mellon, Colonial and Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania, Volumes I-III, Entries in : The Sheakley Line & The McCurdy Line, Text Accessible via www.Ancestry. com under, p 1514.
875. Will Abstract Robert McCurdy
"Abstracts of Adams County, Pennsylvania Wills (1800-1826)" Kevin L Greenholt. Family Line Publications. 1988
Robert McCURDY, Cumberland Twp, sick, Children: William, Robert, Nancy PAXTON, James, Margaret w/o George SHEKELY, Martha w/o Samuel TAGGART, Mary w/o Robert THOMPSON, grandson: Robert McCurdy PAXTON. Exec: Sons William, Robert. WItnesses: Robert HAYES, David HORNER, Robert MAJOR. Written: 5 Aug 1805 probate 25 May 1810.
876. Website "LANCASTER COUNTY MARRIAGES FROM 1753-1854", "Lancaster Co. Pa. Marriages; part [page] 3 of 3," http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/5429/lancast/Lancastmarr3.html, "Robert McCurdie to Ann Kratton 31 Mar 1761".
877. Will Abstract Robert McCurdy
"Abstracts of Adams County, Pennsylvania Wills (1800-1826)" Kevin L Greenholt. Family Line Publications. 1988
Robert McCURDY, Cumberland Twp, sick, Children: William, Robert, Nancy PAXTON, James, Margaret w/o George SHEKELY, Martha w/o Samuel TAGGART, Mary w/o Robert THOMPSON, grandson: Robert McCurdy PAXTON. Exec: Sons William, Robert. WItnesses: Robert HAYES, David HORNER, Robert MAJOR. Written: 5 Aug 1805 probate 25 May 1810. Son.
878. "Adams County Sentinel (Centinel) -Spelling varies at Historical Society-mostly Sentinel," Adams County Newspaper published Gettysburg, Sited by the Adams county historical society in mcCurdy file, 11/27/1822 newspaper stating "Died Sat Am last Saturday last, James M'Curdy, Cumberland twp." no further info.
879. Family Notes from Donald McCurdy Swope-research and interviews. 1789 by family records, it appears by Obit and census she was born 1787 or 1788.
880. Frederick County Backgrounds-Marriage Records of United Churches of Tom's Creek and Piney Creek Presbyterian Churches, marriages by Rev Davidson, B F M McPherson under pseudonym of Samuel Carrick, her Ancestor, Articles published in the Chronicle Newspaper, Emmitsburg Md, in the 1930s and 1940s, Caveat Emptor proviso in relation to the family history quality of the data by source transcriber Steve Gilland, Accesable via GenForum Library In larger file called Family History: Colonial Families of Maryland, 1600s-1900s, Page 27-Marriage Records of the Rev Davidson, "Nov 24 1808. James McCurdy to Martha MOORE".
881. Historical Sketch of the Presbyterian Churches of Emmitsburg and Piney Creek, William Simonton, Paster, The Congregation; Printer J. E. Wible, Corner Wash/ North Streets Gettysburg 1876, Delivered to the Piney Creek Church July 27 1876, Cited at Adams County Historical Society in McCurdy and allied lines, with publication present in ACHS library.
882. Gilbert Ernest Swope, The Swope Family 1676-1896, T.B. & H.B Cochran, Publishers, 68, page 89.
883. Family Notes from Donald McCurdy Swope-research and interviews. 1818-appears disputed by census in which she would have been born 1820/21.
884. "Census listing." 1850 Gettysburg, Adams Co, Penna shows she is 29, 1870 census she is 49.
885. Gilbert Ernest Swope, The Swope Family 1676-1896, T.B. & H.B Cochran, Publishers, 68, pages 75 & 89.
886. "Census listing." Gettysburg Borough, Adams Co, Penna Enumerated Aug 23.
887. "Adams County Sentinel (Centinel) -Spelling varies at Historical Society-mostly Sentinel," Adams County Newspaper published Gettysburg, Sited by the Adams county historical society in mcCurdy file, 3 march 1845 edition.
888. Gilbert Ernest Swope, The Swope Family 1676-1896, T.B. & H.B Cochran, Publishers, 68, pgs 90 and 123-124.
889. Ibid. page 123-124.
890. HISTORICAL GENEALOGY OF THE McCURDY FAMILY, compiled prior to 1917 and published by the author., Work is Compiled letters unverified by hard data, Written and compiled by D. E. McCurdy Copied by Patricia (McCurdy) Townsend, Lubec, Maine 1994, http://members.tripod.com/~quoddybelle/HisGenMcCurdy.html, Sir Ninian of Nether Kilmory.
891. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Graham, Dukes of Montrose.
892. SGM post from Suzanne Doig (smd49@*!*csc.canterbury.ac.nz)
Subject: Graham of Abercorn, Kincardine etc.
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/11/26
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II+Stewart%22+%22children%22+group:soc.genealogy.medieval&hl=en&selm=365c9b54.5279807%40news.canterbury.ac.nz&rnum=1
"The source for the early part of the chart is predominantly Burke's Peerage sub Montrose. The later part of the chart draws on Burke's and the 'Complete Peerage' sub Graham, Montrose and Strathearn.

I have only one major query - the link between the Grahams of Dalkeith and the Douglases of Dalkeith (and on to the Earls of Morton) - see the note at #11-iii and the marriage at #66." see footnote detail for source citations.
893. Ibid. 1414 "The source for the early part of the chart is predominantly Burke's Peerage sub Montrose. The later part of the chart draws on Burke's and the 'Complete Peerage' sub Graham, Montrose and Strathearn.".
894. Libby, "Descendants of Robert II of Scotland," http://libby.withnall.com/robert/database.htm, accessed 092700, libby@withnall.com, Libby states information is sourced, and that she will send it to me (092700), 1407 unsourced.
895. "Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray "Mariot was sis of Robert of Cardney, Bp Dunkeld".
896. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Elizabeth de Burgh (d 26 Oct. 1327), dau. of Richard, Earl of Ulster.
897. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?Scotland, Cullen Castle, Banffshire.
This data base has extensive biliography as listed at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt
898. [Burkes] THE SCOTTISH ROYAL LINEAGE, " Burke's Peerage and Baronage; Online Subscription," Home page http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, 26 Oct. 1327.
899. Mike Ashley, The mammoth book of British Kings and Queens, Julian Lock, 1999 Carrol and Graff Publishers 19 W 21 St, NY.
900. Pages providing info from Complete Peerage, "the Erskin Clan Website ( The Earldom of Mar Page of )," Pages of erskin@zwallet.com, GREAT SITE http://www.angelfire.com/tn/erskin/gene6.html, of The Erskin Clan Website http://erskinclan.mygoldclub.com/gene6.html, Pages providing info from Complete Peerage [from The Complete Peerage, or a history of the House of Lords and all its memebers from the earliest times. ], Christian-Complete Peerage- footnote 24 -http://erskinclan.mygoldclub.com/ftnotes.html#24a.
901. Ibid. Christian- her husband's article.
902. Suzanne Doig post in SGM-Ahnentafel Report, SEE ALSO SOURCE # 1358 where Ahnentafel is provided, "Subject: Re: DONALD, 8th EARL of MAR Date 1998/12/22," http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alesta+of+Mar&hl=en&rnum=1&selm=367f1498.4875415%40news.canterbury.ac.nz, No sources provided, but Suzanne is a freqent contributor at SGM and has her own webpages with sources mentioned, Suzanne's web pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/4038/geneal.htm, Christian BRUCE.
903. SGM post, "Stewart Saga-THREE" by Leo van de Pas {ppart of series of five articles, with sources provided at end of series and included below text to follow]
From: Leo van de Pas (leovdpas@iinet.net.au)
Subject: Stewart Saga - THREE
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1998/12/12
URLhttp://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Robert+II%22+%22Ross%22&hl=en&selm=3.0.2.32.19981213113824.00c20ff0%40mail.iinet.net.au&rnum=4


Post as presented and with author as above reads:

"Generation VI-1
1st marriage
1.Robert II, King of Scots 1370-1390,
born 2 March 1316 Paisley, died 19 March 1390 Dundonald
Castle
That Robert Stewart, the only son of Marjorie Bruce, became
Robert II was the conclusion of a chain of unlikeley
events. His initial survival was almost miraculous, for he
was delivered by Caeserean section from the body of his
mother, who had died of injuries after a fall from her
horse.
When he was two years old in 1318, he was acknowledged
as his grandfather's heir, a position he forfeited in in
1324 on the birth of the future King David II. Forty-seven
years later, when against all expectations David II had
failed to perpetuate his dynasty, Robert II was crowned
and anointed at Scone on 26 March 1371.
Perhaps a man andvanced to supreme poer by the delayed
action of chance could not have been expected to be a very
decisive ruler; but it was unfortunate that, by the
standards of his time, he was well past his prime and in
poor health, so that he lacked the energy required of a
king responsible for every aspect of government.
married (1) circa 1347
Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure, of Rowallan
and Jannet Mure, of Fokeltie
died circa 1355
married (2) contracted 2 May 1355
Euphemia of Ross, daughter of Hugh de Ross, 4th Earl
of Ross and Margaret Graham
died 1372
child by (a) NN Leitch
child by (b) NN
child by (c) Mariot
Children : Generation VII-1

2nd marriage
2.Sir John Stewart, of Ralston
married NN
Children : Generation VII-2

3.Sir Andrew Stewart

4.Egidia/Gille Stewart
married (1) 21 April 1346
Sir James Lindsay, of Crawford, son of Sir David
de Lindsay, Lord of Crawford, and Maria Abernethy
died before 11 November 1358
married (2) Sir Hugh Eglinton
married (3) October 1378
Sir James Douglas, of Dalkeith, son of Sir John
Douglas and Agnes (widow of John Monfode ?)
died 1420

--------------------
Generation VI-2
1.Isabel Stewart
died circa 15 June 1347/15 January 1348 in London
married (1)
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, Regent of Scotland,
son of Gratney, 7th Earl of Mar, and Christian Bruce
killed in battle 12 August 1332 Dupplin
married (2) 15 September 1334, Divorced in 1336
Geoffrey Moubray
married (3) contracted 3 June 1339
William Carewell
Donald, 8th Earl of Mar, probably succeeded in 1305.
He was taken to England and, in 1306, was ordered, as
"l'enfant qui est heir de Mar", to be warden in Bristol
Castle but, because of his tender years, was not to be
put in irons. He had been delivered to the Bishop of
Chester for this purpose, but by the king's subsequent
order remained in the Royal household.
However, he was brought up at the English court and,
so strong was his attachment to England or to the English
king that, when after Bannockburn he was expected to return
to Scotland, on reaching Newcastle he turned back and chose
to remain in England.
In July 1319 he went to Scotland in the English king's
service and, in June 1320, was in King Edward's train on
his journey to France to do homage for Ponthieu and
Aquitaine. In February 1321, he had protection for a
pilgrimage to Santiago.
On 30 January 1322, as Donald de Mar, the King's
yeoman, he was appointed Keeper of Newark Castle. In
October 1322 he was with King Edward II at Byland when he
was suprised by the Scots. When the opposition to Edward II
began to merge into rebellion, Donald received two
commissions to act with his whole company in the Marches
of Wales against rebels and invaders. After the king's
capture and deposition, Donald of Mar repaired at last to
Scotland, in the hope of raising forces to restore
Edward II, and led one of the three armies which entered
England in July 1327.
Upon his return to his native country, his own grant
to Cupar and King Robert's grants to him style him as the
Earl of Mr. After the death of the Earl of Moray, in spite
of his leanings to Edward Baliol and his almost lifelong
absence in England, he was chosen Regent to succeed Moray,
probably by reason of his close relationship to the young
King.
However, his training and experience could not have
equipped him for the duties, either military or political,
of such a position, and he was killed on the 12th of August
1332. His widow, Isabel Stewart, married twice more and
died in London approximately 15 January 1348.

2.John Stewart, of Bonkyl, 1st Earl of Angus
died 9 December 1331
marriage contracted 24 October 1328
Margaret Abernethy, daughter of Sir Alexander Abernethy
children : Generation VII-3

-------------------
Generation VI-3
1.Sir John Stewart, of Cruikstone
died before 15 January 1369
married NN
children : Generation VII-4

2.Walter Stewart, died 1371

3.Sir Alexander Stewart, of Darnley
died after 26 August 1374
married NN
Children : Generation VII-5

4.Elizabeth Stewart
married John FitzWalter Hamilton, son of Walter FitzGilbert
Hamilton, 1st of Cadzow, and Mary Gordon

---------------
Generation VI-4
1.Sir John Stewart, of Dalwinston
mentioned 1346
married NN
Children, Generation VII-6
---------------
Generation VI-5
1.Sir John Stewart, of Pierston

2.Sir Alan Stewart, of Ochiltree

3.Sir Robert Stewart, of Innermeath
died circa 1387-1388
married NN
Children, Generation VII-7

-----------------------
Generation VI-6
1.Mary, Countess of Menteith
As a young girl she lived with her widowed mother at
Wotton, near Northampton. After the death of her uncle,
probably in 1332, she was recognised as Countess of
Menteith. Before 1334 she married Sir John Graham who,
in her place, was recognised as Earl of Menteith. They
became the parents of one daughter but in 1347, he husband
was executed by the king of England. She survived him to
die some time before 29 April 1360.
Sir John Graham, Earl of Menteith. His origins are
unknown but in the right of his wife he became Earl of
Menteith. He accompanied King David II on his expedition
into England, which terminated in the Scottish disaster
on 17 October 1346 at Nevill's Cross where, together with
the king, he was taken prisoner. The Earl of Menteith,
having sworn and broken fealty to King Edward III of
England, was tried in London for treason, and sentenced to
be hanged, drawn and quartered.

To be continued.

Leo van de Pas"

Sources provided by Leo at end of text of last of series [Stewart Saga Five] :
"Sources

Burke's Extinct Peerage
1866, by Sir Bernard Burke

Burke's Guide to the Royal Family
London, 1973

Burke's Peerage, 1938

Burke's Landed Gentry, 1937

The Complete Peerage

The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles
Edinburgh, 1977 by Gerald Paget

Historic Memnoirs of the Stewarts of Fotherfill
Edinburgh, 1879 by Charles Poyntz Stewart" Christian Bruce.
904. Brian Tompsett, "Directory of Royal Genealogical Data," Site provides a bibilography but infrequently provides source material at the level of individual entries. This site is known to have errors & must be utilized as a very imperfect framework only which then must be double checked in more reliable sources., In regards to entries from this site that do not contain substantiating evidence beyond it the reader is encouraged to further their research into primary materials., http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02575, B.C Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk, University of Hull ,Computer Science Department ,Cottingham Road, Cottingham, Ph +44 482-465222 Fax +44 1482-466666, See Bilbiography below, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal/quality.html, http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal-reference.txt, gopher://gopher.dcs.hull.ac.uk:70/1m/genealogy/royal/mail,